The Mean Green Rubber (Acid Green) 16mm

  • Review


    The Mean Green Rubber (Acid Green) 16mm purchased from Neptonics.


    The claim: SALVIMAR ACID GREEN RUBBER is the most powerful rubber available with 380% Stretch. It's not harder to load, it's just snappier than any other rubber giving your shaft more acceleration. Any other rubber on the market has 350% stretch compared to Acid Greens 380% stretch. The bands are manufactured by dipping creating a multilayered structure reportedly improving memory and miniumizing elongation over time.


    My Impression: The rubber is in fact not harder to load perhaps even easier. The launch has a very smooth even acceleration that reduces kickback noticeably. Theoretically since the band stretches longer the shaft should have force applied longer and closer to the end of the muzzle.


    I was watching a TV show about a guy who had the world record for paper airplane throwing distance. He explained that you should launch a paper airplane with a slow steady even throw,not to throw it hard, if you want distance.


    My Experience: When I shoot the Green rubber it has a very smooth,even, and accurate delivery. However the smooth launch is slower (*the paper airplane launch) but perhaps it sails over a slightly greater distance with greater accuracy till the end.


    Issue: Most of the fish I hunt on my over dynamited out reef are very small and very skittish. They feel the shock wave of the launch and have time to dodge it like Neo in the Matrix. I can actually see them turn and swim away as the spear approaches


    Methodology of comparison: I own two almost identical Laser Tec 115 made my Ihab. I rigged one with my fall back Small ID 16mm rubber and the other with the Acid Green Rubber. The guns both have enclosed tracks and kick back is minimized by their excellent balance and design.


    Conclusion: I find the snap and quicker power of the small ID hole rubber to best suit my fishing conditions and preference. Since most fish I shoot are at a range of 10 feet or less away the shaft out of the gun time is critical.


    If in fact the Green rubber delivers a smother take off and flies truer over a longer distance, then it might be an advantage on a bigger fish 4 or 5 meters away since they aren’t quite as agile.


    Exception: I don’t agree that it has quicker acceleration. Perhaps they mean it accelerates for a longer period of time due to its increased elongation.


    When I hunt for spanish mackerel further out from the reef perhaps the Green might prove a positive for extra distance and truer aim. That is pure speculation since I have no antidotal experience to remotely support such speculation.


    Baseline: I use 5/8” small ID rubber purchased from spearfishing.store. For the record Primeline’s power calculator suggests that you get an extra two pounds more pressure out of the smaller ID hole product.


    I personally find the smooth power delivered thought out the length of the physical launch to be a excellent balance between fast acelleration and a snappy response without too much kick back.


    I will continue to experiment with the SALVIMAR ACID GREEN RUBBER and try to give you keener insight as I become more familiar with it's properties.It is a very interesting media and I like the smooth delivery. Perhaps it will grow o me and I will adjust to it's delivery

  • I really enjoy all your write ups, thanks! Curious though as to why you ordered a twin gun? did you make some tweaks to the second one?

    A bad day at sea is better than a good day in the boatyard
    George Steele

  • When I am in the Philippines my home is in a remote rural part of the island that means you are own your own. Supplies, Shafts, rubber, line etc... I have a redundant back up so I don't have go 4 to 6 week down time if something major fails.


    Another reason I got another gun from Ihab is because I just can't miss with it. It's feel and accuracy are perfect for my style and location. Others' may know better but I hunt happily and successfully with these.


    If it ain't broke don't fix it. So I got a back up. It's hard for me to imagine a better gun. Fortunately I don't have too.

  • I really enjoy all your write ups, thanks! Curious though as to why you ordered a twin gun? did you make some tweaks to the second one?


    Dude George,


    It does also have some tweaks - will report on them in a later post. I want to convert one into a break down traveling gun for touring the island...more later

    When I am not sleeping, I'm Spearfishing.
    My Aeris 10 only records 99 dives.
    I use them all every day the China Sea will admit me.

  • Just had a look at the green rubber description, a bunch of BS claims to get the hype started. Additionally the "mean green" phrase is recycled. Guys who've been spearfishing in the US longer will remember the original mean green rubber whose characteristics I described in another thread.

  • Doesn't rife have a shaft that screws together. I was going to look into it to see if It could be used but I little knowledge of it except for the Ad for their traveling g gun


    Dan I know mean green is recycled. I have further experimented with the rubber it does have a completely different feel for the release and is truly a smoother launch. The shaft spends to long going down the run way for me. I still like the snap, crackle, and pop of the small ID stuff.

    When I am not sleeping, I'm Spearfishing.
    My Aeris 10 only records 99 dives.
    I use them all every day the China Sea will admit me.

    Edited once, last by Nickmal ().

  • I recently went out & bought several meters each the five different 5/8 rubber brands I could find. I too found this green stuff the best for similar reasons as described above. Its twice the price of the next closest best two ( the riffe amber, & what we call "American black") but I will buy it again. The worst by far was the red stuff from Europe which was dissapointing as it is sold here by a good mate of mine & the next worse IMO was the Sef African blue stuff. The guns in the photo on the left are clones of three identical & the tri coloured is one of four clones. Yes, the rubbers were shortened slightly just after this photo was taken.

  • Doesn't rife have a shaft that screws together. I was going to look into it to see if It could be used but I little knowledge of it except for the Ad for their traveling g gun


    Dan I know mean green is recycled. I have further experimented with the rubber it does have a completely different feel for the release and is truly a smoother launch. The shaft spends to long going down the run way for me. I still like the snap, crackle, and pop of the small ID stuff.


    I'm going to answer for Dan as he may have missed this question:
    The name '' Mean Green is recycled from a rubber named Mean Green and sold by Mori over 20 years ago.
    The Mori rubber had very high pull force values and I promptly rigged my guns with it for a 10 day Mexico trip...only to discover the rubber would brake (sometimes in the span center) within a hour of elongation. Other band would brake as soon as cocked. (250 percent elongation). The rubber suffered from a lack of cross-linking. I had purchased 50 feet so I tried to save the remaining batch by a kettle curing method I still use today. The saved rubber I had continued to live on my guns for a few more years.


    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • My Acid green comments from post #50 on this thread.http://spearfishing.world/spea…carini-c4-monoscocca.html


    I found a great band for chicks and roller gun guys. :bouncinboobs:Salvimar Acid Green 16mm. Any chick regardless of size should be able to cock this stuff at 380 stretch. This is also the band I would recommend for you wheelie gun guys. Next week I'll get my scale from storage and see whats up, clearly it won't be shaft speed on my larger game gun.



    Stretched the Acid Green Salvimar single band segment to 380% stretch for a pull of just 40lbs. so we are looking at 80lb per band from this stuff. That is about the same as I used to record with the cheapest dive store 5/8 thirty years ago. Other then the bright color I see no advances with this band material. My old rubber notes list the rubber I was sourcing (and testing) from France at the time making 132lb at the wishbone.
    That is why this stuff felt so wimpy. Tomorrow I'll elongate it again and give it a 4hr soak and lb pull #.


    What may work out on fly weight thin shaft euro guns shot by vegans with bent elbows, may not be the trick setup for US speros that want to kill fish at 20 feet. I bet I'm going to hear some one tell me the Acid Green is smooth shooting, with little recoil, well that is what the gym is for, turn that skinny vegan arm into a bar of steel to cock that manly gun. then you too will not need close stalking skills.



    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • Interesting, I had three identical guns with 6' x 3/8 shafts set up using the green, amber Riffe & the "American black rubber., I quickly lost the red Italian & blue Sth African stuff. The green rubber could be stretched much more easily than the others & it was made made shorter than the others, maybe this accounted for the better distance & speed from it. I dont understand why the recoil felt lighter as well, but it did? I have a few old mates who use similar set ups as the above & they have raised the same thing in conversation very recently, hence me posting on this old thread. Maybe old is the common denominator?:grin:


    Cheers Bob

  • "I bet I'm going to hear some one tell me the Acid Green is smooth shooting, with little recoil, well that is what the gym is for, turn that skinny vegan arm into a bar of steel to cock that manly gun. then you too will not need close stalking skills."


    HULK :D

    Un Hombre tiene que creer en algo.......
    Creo que me iré de pesca!!!

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