Just trying to help...

  • I'll probably get banned on the other board for posting this here, but I recommended a Speardiver suit to a fellow diver on the other board yesterday, and this is what I received in return... un****ing believable how childish they are.

  • I have gotten a few of those. I have given some thought to suing him but it is unfortunately totally in his right as it is a private board.


    I still read over there as there is a lot of good info and good people but I post less and less. I just don't want to contribute to his ego


    The idea that anyone can control the info by curtailing free speech will ultimately reap the fruit of bitter isolation when no one will speak to them at all


    Sycophants will desert and symbiots will exhaust your resources and depart.

    i like to spear fish


  • I'm right there with you. I rarely post there anymore, but when I can help a new diver out, why not.


    I didn't even provide a link to Dan's site, just said that his and Riffe's suits are the only ones that fit me off the rack. Pretty sad when you can't even help out a fellow diver with a problem that you already found the answer to...


    I guess I'll have to post a big pic of myself with a Speardiver suit holding a nice fish. Curious to see ho long that will be up...

  • Same thing happened to me.... at the time I was unaware of the feud, so it was really odd seeing my posts deleted and not knowing why until Tony blasted me with PM's and infractions.

    Dustan Baker

  • It is crazy. I got slammed for this pic



    Hahahaha! Crazy. It was one of like eight pics in a DIVE report on a thread I started with more hits than any other on his whole site!!!

    i like to spear fish

  • It is crazy. I got slammed for this pic
    http://i931.photobucket.com/al…s-on-5-17-11/96ed336d.jpg



    Hahahaha! Crazy. It was one of like eight pics in a DIVE report on a thread I started with more hits than any other on his whole site!!!


    How dare you post a photo of a non sponsor! And a fish report!!! even worse.
    The better question is........... Do you attached your car keys to your floatline????

    Dustan Baker

  • Same thing happened to me.... at the time I was unaware of the feud, so it was really odd seeing my posts deleted and not knowing why until Tony blasted me with PM's and infractions.


    I never even got that. A diver asked me what fins I wore 3 years ago. I told him I could not tell him in the open forum, so he PM'd me. Then he wanted my cell # so I gave it to him, he text's me '' what brand fins do you wear''? I text back Pursuit. (end of message).


    The next day nothing on WeirdBoard works, no PM, No Avatar, and I can see no images. What pisses me off is
    my posts are there, as is my profile so guys PM me but I can't respond. Two years ago a concerned dad PM'ed me asking for help for his son after a very dangerous incident . Of course I had no idea until a friend told me weeks later and I was able to talk to the dad and give him some direction for his sons training.


    Many times when I was there, I received safety related questions by PM. I wish they (SB) would remove my profile and posts completely. I have no desire to be affiliated with such a forum that behaves in this manner.


    Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

    Edited 2 times, last by Don Paul: Spelling, breath holds make me dyslectic. ().

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    I guess I'll have to post a big pic of myself with a Speardiver suit holding a nice fish. Curious to see ho long that will be up...


    You'll get banned for sure if he's already warned you. I was warned and it seemed almost comical. But I posted that I "bought a GoPro lens from the shop that has another spearfishing website". Like Don said, no more warning, just unable to log on anymore except as a guest.
    A friend must have talked to the owner though and he told me that I could log on again if I promised not to mention "that" brand again.
    I posted a pic from the Philippines but blurred out the brand name on my fin.


    But yeah, he'll ban you.

    Edited once, last by hank ().


  • That is horrible.If he is gonna ban people fine, but close the darn account. I just cannot believe you have PM's you cannot respond to.
    I was very near writing a check to sponsor his forum. I get a good amount of web traffic from that forum. Just in time more than one concerned person reached out to me and told be all sorts of strange things about SB..... I hand no idea. It was the emails from Tony to Daryl Wong about sponsorhip that turned me off....... aRRGH!

    Dustan Baker


  • I have to honest I have always wondered what a helpful, insanely knowledgeable, non-confrontational person so highly regarded in the spero world did to be banned...Just reinforces my decision when I first found out about both sites(did a search for custom guns FYI) TO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE OTHER, WITHOUT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT BOTH BOARDS AT ALL AND NOTHING OF SPERO DRAMA i CHOOSE THIS ONE FOR THE PERSONABLE(WHOOPS CAPS, SORRY) people and the atmosphere, every day I have spent since in both places has reinforced this decision for me...

    A bad day at sea is better than a good day in the boatyard
    George Steele

  • That is horrible. If he is gonna ban people fine, but close the darn account.

    He does that so members will not be aware the person is gone. Otherwise it would draw attention to his actions and prompt more members to reevaluate their participation on spearboard.


    I don't check spearboard for a year now, other than when it pops up in google search results. The grogan banned not only my user name but also my IP address numerous times. It's easy to get back on through a proxy, but I don't bother. Disconnecting myself from "The Matrix" was healthy.





    I also feel good about my efforts to inform the spearfishing community about who the man behind spearboard is and his agenda. If you google spearboard you will see that speardiver threads exposing the grogan are in 2nd position right after spearboard itself. It's good to know that the grogan spends his time thinking about Speardiver. I know for a fact that he monitors this forum, hi grogy :bugoff1:

  • I have to honest I have always wondered what a helpful, insanely knowledgeable, non-confrontational person so highly regarded in the spero world did to be banned...Just reinforces my decision when I first found out about both sites(did a search for custom guns FYI) TO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE OTHER, WITHOUT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT BOTH BOARDS AT ALL AND NOTHING OF SPERO DRAMA i CHOOSE THIS ONE FOR THE PERSONABLE(WHOOPS CAPS, SORRY) people and the atmosphere, every day I have spent since in both places has reinforced this decision for me...


    George, thank you very much for your nice words about my dive history and disposition. I am not perfect in life
    and harbor absolutely no hate for the owner of SB.


    '' Hate is too strong a emotion to waste on someone you don't even like'' Quote: Sixto Rodriguez.


    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • George, thank you very much for your nice words about my dive history and disposition. I am not perfect in life
    and harbor absolutely no hate for the owner of SB.


    '' Hate is too strong a emotion to waste on someone you don't even like'' Quote: Sixto Rodriguez.


    Cheers, Don


    That's a good quote. When I get all insane and pissed and mad at people for doing stupid crap.... I try to remember this one:


    "Resentment is for ignorant people who have nothing else to do -Stephen Stills (from Howard Stern interview 2009)

    Dustan Baker

  • i really don't even see the point on visiting that forum. it does not in any way bring about any good feelings or emotions. i can't even remember what my password there was. and i don't care. if i ever go back there will be to delete myself if it's possible. it's not just the grogan , it's the whole idea of the forum, the way a lot of them people there carry themselves. it's the whole karma of the place that sucks . I'm pretty sure we are here to enjoy the common thing that gives us peace and relaxation ;spearfishing, diving.... and the like. so why go to a forum that will not bring about enjoyment or positive feelings ? i'm pretty sure there's good info there of any kind but i'm sure as well that the same quality of info can be found here in this very forum or any other for the matter. we have very experienced divers here that can answer any question anyone can have about our sport, and more. just my 2 c.

  • Can any of you guys edit old posts on the other site? I can close old threads, but can't delete them...


    If someone has an answer, please share...

  • i really don't even see the point on visiting that forum. it does not in any way bring about any good feelings or emotions. i can't even remember what my password there was. and i don't care. if i ever go back there will be to delete myself if it's possible. it's not just the grogan , it's the whole idea of the forum, the way a lot of them people there carry themselves. it's the whole karma of the place that sucks . I'm pretty sure we are here to enjoy the common thing that gives us peace and relaxation ;spearfishing, diving.... and the like. so why go to a forum that will not bring about enjoyment or positive feelings ? i'm pretty sure there's good info there of any kind but i'm sure as well that the same quality of info can be found here in this very forum or any other for the matter. we have very experienced divers here that can answer any question anyone can have about our sport, and more. just my 2 c.


    well said

    Scupper Pro Gives You Wings!

  • i really don't even see the point on visiting that forum. it does not in any way bring about any good feelings or emotions. i can't even remember what my password there was. and i don't care. if i ever go back there will be to delete myself if it's possible. it's not just the grogan , it's the whole idea of the forum, the way a lot of them people there carry themselves. it's the whole karma of the place that sucks . I'm pretty sure we are here to enjoy the common thing that gives us peace and relaxation ;spearfishing, diving.... and the like. so why go to a forum that will not bring about enjoyment or positive feelings ? i'm pretty sure there's good info there of any kind but i'm sure as well that the same quality of info can be found here in this very forum or any other for the matter. we have very experienced divers here that can answer any question anyone can have about our sport, and more. just my 2 c.


    I agree with you 100%. I told Dan a many months ago how much better I felt by not reading shite there.
    I really like many of the brothers I still have there, but sifting through the BS, rhetoric, and anger is not worth it to me, I only have maybe another 40 good years left, it may as well be spent with my brothers here that treat me like kin. Kindness is routed the that word.:toast::toast:


    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • YEAH I HAVE BEEN A DRINKING TONIGHT.... **** SB AND THE NEWBIES THAT WANT TO **** UP MY REEF.


    Don Paul

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

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