Freedivers spearguns looks like Rob Allen

they look similar, although cant really tell by the pictures on their site.

i know they are south african, but dont look identical like mako and rabi

they can surely distribute one to me

great new avatar Dan

Nice gun, the main difference being the plastic insert on top third of barrel. Makes the gun/rail a lot quieter than a Rob Allen.

Feels lighter than a Rob Allen out of water, but heavier in water due to extra metal ribs and decreased internal air space.

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So the rail is not part of the tube but added on?

In the site you linked:
http://www.freedivers.co.za/

Go to:
--> products --> technical --> barrel

All that to make it more quiet?

im not sure what they mean by quieter, that the shaft makes less noise leaving the barrel?

i think this noise is irrelevant as the fish is dead by the time he hears it. I think adding that extra piece just makes the gun more vulnerable for that thing to fall off. the metal to metal might cause more friction however.

one thing that causes the gun to be noisy in the water is the swivel where the mono is attached rubbing against the barrel while moving through the water, this problem is easily solved by adding a piece of clear pvc over the swivel

It just seems like that's alot of work on that tube to just add that thing on top of it. Seems like the tube was built for the rail not the other way around.
With all that being said, Im sure they made it for a reason, no? That's alot of design and development $$$$$.

P.S. do they sell it by itself? I just had a brilliant/stupid idea.:D

As a bowhunter, I have seen calculations that pretty clearly showed that a deer was capable of hearing, and reacting, in time for an arrow to miss the vital kill area from a range of about 40 yards.

I have never seen anything similar for fish. But given that sound travels much faster in water than in air, I have to wonder. Of course, even if a fish were capable of detecting and reacting in time, that doesn't mean that it would. Underwater can be a loud place, so maybe fish just don't perceive our typical gun noises as a threat.

I can only say that they know what noisy bubbles mean . . .

TinMan---'jumping the string" is what we called it back in the day of longbows and recurve bows.
In spearin it might be, "jumping the band", or "jumping the rubber", or in the case of a pneumatic gun user. "jumping the blow job:laughing3:""

Sorry greekdiver, I couldn't control myself.:D
No harm intended:)

hahahahaha...i hate when they jump on the blow job HAHAHA

Your measly band guns only shoot at 30m/s while my canon goes over 41m/s BLOW THIS!!!!

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Your measly band guns only shoot at 30m/s while my canon goes over 41m/s BLOW THIS!!!!

:laughing2::laughing2::laughing1::laughing1::rofl: I guess harm was intended:D

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Your measly band guns only shoot at 30m/s while my canon goes over 41m/s BLOW THIS!!!!

That's a hell of a blow.....:thumbsup2::laughing3:

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Your measly band guns only shoot at 30m/s while my canon goes over 41m/s BLOW THIS!!!!

We`re slow but steady... :cool2:

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im not sure what they mean by quieter, that the shaft makes less noise leaving the barrel?

i think this noise is irrelevant as the fish is dead by the time he hears it. I think adding that extra piece just makes the gun more vulnerable for that thing to fall off. the metal to metal might cause more friction however.

one thing that causes the gun to be noisy in the water is the swivel where the mono is attached rubbing against the barrel while moving through the water, this problem is easily solved by adding a piece of clear pvc over the swivel

Some fishes may dodge a shaft due to the noise the speargun makes when fired. Even more, you will scare the heck out of the whole reef with a noisy speargun. I have a friend who uses an ole jbl magnum and i can tell you that i notice when he fires the gun from a mile. The quieter the better imo.