DIY Lifeguard rescue can float buoy for spearfishing

  • Instructions on making a lifeguard rescue can float buoy for spearfishing, foam filled with ballast and flag base.


    Here's the cheapest source I found for the rescue cans $65 https://www.marine-rescue.com/…quipment/rescue-cans.html Shipping was reasonable. They first sent me one that had a little hole in the handle. I called to ask for another one and they told me that it does happen from time to time and to cut off the piece that had the hole (happened to be the handle) and send it to them to get a replacement float. They actually sent me the new float before I ever sent them the piece. I cut out as small a piece as I could, about 1" long and sent it to them. Then managed to repair the first float after with a piece of PVC and epoxy putty.


    I was contemplating how much weight to use for ballast and which density foam available in 2,3,4,8 and 16lb. I went with a 2lb lead weight ballast and 4lb density foam from http://www.shopmaninc.com/foam.html I bought the 16lb/4 cubic feet kit and had quite a bit left over but maybe not enough to do another complete float.


    Forget about pouring the foam through the little hole covered by the plastic cap. You will need a bigger hole to insert the lead weight anyways and a place for the flag base. I used a hole saw to cut a circular hole at the top of the rescue can. I kept the resulting round piece of plastic with a hole in the middle of it to use later to cap the whole thing off. The lead weight had to be chopped up into 3 sections to be able to insert it through the hole. Maybe a different round weight would have gone in complete but that's what I had at the time. I used a dab of sealant to keep the segmented weight where I wanted it while I poured the foam.


    When it comes time to pour the foam do not mix large quantities of it. Have a large supply of disposable plastic cups and do about half a cup at a time. The two parts need to be mixed well and the foam starts expanding very fast. Once it starts expanding you can't pour it. So do well planned small increments to best fill all crannies of the rescue can. I started with filling the handles, directing the flow from the cup more or less in the direction of the handles and then tilting the float to make sure the liquid foam seeped well in there. You will see if you did a good job of this as the foam will expand out of both ends of the handle hole. Next I poured into each end of the float alternating.


    When the float was filled from each end almost to the middle I poured straight down and covered the weight. The expanding foam secures the weight inside the float. At that point is when I put the fuel hose (flag base) all the way down against the bottom of the float. Actually it's resting on the top of the weight. Before doing so I poked some wire through the hose to secure it from coming out of the foam. I also shoved some epoxy putty into the bottom of the hose to not have water enter the float through it. Once the hose was in place I poured the foam in increments all the way to the top. Support the hose straight throughout this process by keeping the flag pole in it.


    I suggest you pour carefully as you get to the top so as not to have the foam expand out of the float. It's very sticky and hard to clean up. I managed to do it almost flush and then did a little scraping to make the hole deeper. I then drilled the cap I saved earlier from the hole saw with a bigger diameter bit to accept the fuel hose. Then used epoxy putty to give the hole a final level, put the hose through the cap and set the cap into the epoxy. Had I calculated better the cap would've been completely flush with the top of the float but it's fine and looks clean like this too.


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    Conclusions; I do not use this float for almost two years. The total weight of it is 9lb. It has a lot of drag which I can feel especially when there's wave action. If I were to do it again I'd still use 2lb ballast but 2lb density foam instead of 4lb. I think if you know for sure you'll be using it in bluewater with fish that will take it down then you may want to use the higher density foam. For reef diving like we do here though it's really overkill and you will dread dragging it around. The ballast and flag base system work great. The hose is of perfect diameter for the flag post and it stays in there very tight with just suction. I would also consider how to fasten a line spooling system and a cleat to it.


    EDIT - The new Rob Allen 12L Overblown Hard Float has similar characteristics to the lifeguard in a smaller lighter package. At $94 it costs less than the sum of the materials to build the lifeguard can float, and is already foam filled and has a ballast and detachable flag.


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  • HAHAHAHA. that is the one me and Anthony sub just bought. Good Job Dan i will follow those instruction. though i have the strap for the flag. That looks pretty good :thumbup: I will love to put the weigh inside so the weight wont hit anything and scratch it. I like the way it finished::). I definitly will try that.

  • It definitly helps. I will love to know what type of hose and the exact diameter to try with my flag., but i guess the strap will do too. Though i like that better. Pargo 9 pounds is kind of heavy, I will try 1 pound and a half in the inside with the hose if i find it. And the 2 pound mix. Hopefully it wont pass 7 pounds total. Anyways that is some awesome craftmanship. and i know how to do it in easy steps, thanks for the instructions :thumbup:

  • Dan, do you have any idea what the approximate crush rating would be on the float filled w the 4lb, the 2lb and then unfilled?


    I would like to make or get a rescue can as a reef float so I have something to help if i shoot a larger fish. Any idea?

    i like to spear fish

  • Yeah.. you Califonia guys probably invented the idea. Do you remember when the first ones appeared Don?


    Judah, I don't understand what you're looking for?


    Terry Mass's was the first I saw in 1980 or 81, I copied his triple set up in 1982.
    I like hard floats... it give the big sharks something else to chew on.
    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • 5 lb for the local floats and 7lb for the ones for gaint Blue Fin.
    Yes to the WS bite, I have to dive that spot in a Blue Water meet, soon so I'll tell you the story later ;)
    I have better images some day, but you can get the idea :)
    Cheers, Don



    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • 5 lb for the local floats and 7lb for the ones for gaint Blue Fin.
    Yes to the WS bite, I have to dive that spot in a Blue Water meet, soon so I'll tell you the story later.;)
    I have better images some day, but you can get the idea.:@
    Cheers, Don


    That rescue can is priceless man, I would really have some of these battle marks on my very skin and live to tell the story of course!

    I'm a Speardiver, not a freediver

  • That rescue can is priceless man, I would really have some of these battle marks on my very skin and live to tell the story of course!


    Some of the holes go in 2'' ...if it was a leg it would be gone. The shark was over 17'.
    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • Well, I finally got around to assembling all the parts of my float and doing my own version.
    I ordered a 33" rescue can from the site in this thread and 2lb foam from US composites, got the flag pole at Home Depot and the tubing at Napa auto...I got a 2lb weight.


    total cost was
    38-can on sale
    20- foam, I used about 2/3 of the amount I purchased
    2- flagpole
    3- tubing
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    63 that I spent considering i had the cable and swivel and mono. i also have enough flag pole left to make at least one more, enough tubing for two more, and enough foam to make a huge mess or for another project I have yet to invent.


    Based on my calculations I should be okay within 1 atm and I cannot imagine anything I might run into on the reef being able to come anywhere near that depth...if I go blue water, I would probably use this as the terminal float and attach a string of lobster floats 20-30 ft in front of this to do the heavy lifting IF that is ever going to happen? pretty big IF for me :D


    some tips for anyone else trying this...
    1) pour a small amount of the foam and watch it...learn how long it stays viscus and how long it expands for...I was not on point and made a mess and had to use two holes to properly fill the can
    2) in addition to Dan's great idea about sealing the bottom of your flag pole holder, I used two chopstick to act as splints to keep it straight inside the can..I found this to be very nice as the tubing wants to bend slightly and this keeps it straight...also, let the can set with the flag pole in, this also keeps it straight for the initial set.
    3) use duct tape to seal the cutout hole over the top and it will hold the expansion and result in a nice flush mount like the one with the flag......DO NOT mis judge the amount of time you will have before the foam reaches that point or it will be a lot harder and foam will pour out and you will be left with a less than awesome flush like the front hole


    I used the 2lb foam and 2 lbs of lead..my total can's weight 6.75 lbs


    i will likely cut down the flagpole, but I wanted to experiment with my huge flags and see if they had a chance before resolving to cutting it down to as short as possible.


    the bungee is to hold the flagpole and flag while down and being transported (i tend to lose things that are not attached, esp in a kayak.


    and the swivel is done that way intentionally...it is 400lb mono at about a 10" loop and 600lb SS cable (heatshrink coated) in an 11" loop.....my thinking here is not that they will combine, but that the mono will handle most runs and pulls but if it fails the more stout anchor should hold....trying to approximate a tuna sounding, but in truth, the can will crush before most anything else will fail is my guess.


    always interested in criticism.


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    i like to spear fish

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