What kind of tangles does the second band cause?
Posts by Dan
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Hip loading a 20mm band is not a big deal, I'm just aware that it's a bigger factor for chest loading. I had a single 20mm band on a 70cm wood gun. My reasoning was that it's quicker to load which was necessary in a couple of spots I have with very low vis and fish appearing quickly out of nowhere. But I know that two 16mm bands are better and my next short gun will have that. You must be able to power down a hole gun, and my short low vis gun must double as a hole gun.
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Marco, that is not necessarily correct. For the super glue to work the tendons have to be in good contact/flush with the rails. Often this is not the case, even when the rails and footpockets are new.
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It's just laziness in my case.
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On the other hand loading/reloading were a pain in the butt. To the point that I became very selective at what I would shoot just to avoid reloading.
Interesting you said that. It is generally true for me not just because of 20mm band. I consider whether the whole process of taking the fish off the line, untangling if necessary, gutting and reeling in the float to put the fish on the stringer, is worth it.
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Is that the hollywood stink hole?
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Is that the hollywood stink hole?
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Loading will be more uncomfortable.
Two 16mm bands store more energy and provide more power than one 20mm band. The 20mm band is actually 19mm.
You can't power down if you need to.
Most importantly I believe there's a point where increasing the diameter of the band starts to work against efficiency. It almost seems that the 20mm band loses more energy contracting in the water, maybe because it displaces more water. The water disturbance on firing sure seemed greater than with two 16mm bands.
In the end it works as many people use it. But I don't like it. I tried using a 20mm + 16mm for a while but went back to two 16mm.
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Thinking of the father dealing with the death of his son is very sad.
6.5 minutes seems like an incredibly long time. I can't imagine how much breathing up is necessary to be able to do that. I really don't see the point as no activity can be sustained in those conditions.
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Fletch, I've been meaning to post up the small rails on the website for a while now so I took this opportunity to do so http://www.freedivingspearfishinggear.com/41-test.html
I'll do the same with the wide water channeling rails shortly.I've also been meaning to do a little instructional video on gluing the rails to the blade. It's not difficult but some guy's who have never seen it done before will be put at ease about doing it themselves.
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It's true, I remember cases of people falling through the ice in Canada and resuscitated after being underwater a very long time.
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Warm water is more conducive to a relaxed state. Being more relaxed to the point of suppressing the apparent need to breath is conducive to blacking out.
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Since this thread is in the safety section it's encouraging a discussion not just offering condolences. My question is does the knowledge of someone losing their life to a blackout really help any of us? And what further lowers this incident's relevance to me is that I've never gone to a warm water hole to go up and down for no particular reason, nor do I know anyone who has or would want to. Why did he do it? Sorry to be blunt but to me it's like hearing of someone racing cars and dying in a car crash while they were doing it.
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You don't need any of that.
Which footpockets are you using? If they're omer then they have the conventional T slot inside the tendons which should accept the tendon rails and grip them securely. If the omer pockets are not doing this, it is most likely caused by crappy tendon rails on the edge blades.
This is what the small rails look like (the ones on the right).
The solution is to scrape off your old tendon rails, just the small ones not the wide water channeling rails, and glue on new better designed ones. The small rails should look like this.
If you insist on going the clip way just use zip ties.
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Thanks for concise advice Jeff.
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Amazing pic.
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Congrats on your gift. I know the feeling when the water gets like that. Must be even more meaningful for you guys on the west coast. I understand it's rare to get that kind of vis near shore.
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I hope you get it Larry, I'd love to see you get into making stuff. In the worst case you'll be able to sell it, probably at a profit. If you have nowhere to keep it bring it to my place <img src= " height="23" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x">
