Posts by Dan

  • Shaft Overhang

    The first thing I bought from Ray was a 30.06 PPD. I tried a few shots with it on two different occasions. Once on a pork thigh weighing about 10lb and once on a 1 gallon milk jug full of sand. I could never get it to detonate. On all occasions the PPD penetrated the target, about 1" into the pork. The reason it doesn't work is because the rubber tube allows the spear point to move and strike the cartridge away from the primer. I could see the indentation off center each time upon examining the cartridge.


    I think it's a mistake for you to count on it for anything. I ended up sending it back to Ray without speaking to him first and asking for one of his wishbone inserters instead. He send it to me and it was a POS that wouldn't work. I cut it up when I needed a piece of round aluminum to make something else.

  • Shaft Overhang

    Here's my story with Ray Odor apart from a couple of other times I ordered from him which wasn't spears and turned out to be crap. I knew the rumor that his shafts are not straight and could certainly believe it based on other things I bought from him. Our correspondence was through email. Before I ordered I made sure to ask him what his policy is if the shafts are not straight, he said I can I return them for a refund. I went ahead and ordered 5 shafts. The price was certainly right, that was before I found my current supplier for spears.


    The shafts arrived in a PVC tube. All 5 shafts were 7mm but he put floppers for an 8mm shaft on them. Therefore they didn't have the correct angle when opening. I took all the floppers off and sent them back to him for a small refund, I think they were $3 each.


    After I sent away the floppers when I got to taking a close look at the shafts I realized that all 5 were bent. 3 were bent right at the back where the welding is and I was able to straighten the bends, it took me a while. 2 had a slow bend running right through and I couldn't straighten them.


    The 3 that I straightened were also cut to wrong length, 3" longer than what I specified in our emails. This actually is how I found out that correct overhang solved my aim problem. I put one of Ray's non standard length shafts in the gun I built and started landing all my shots. Before that I used a standard length spear which had a 10" overhang on my gun. So really the whole mess was worthwhile to me because I found out the correct overhang to use which I otherwise might never have.


    I kept two of the longer shafts for my custom gun and cut and reduced the third to standard size to fit my friend's C3. The remaining two shafts were impossible to straighten so I gave up on them. I emailed Ray and he argued that they were straight. I argued that they were not and reminded him that he promised to take them back in such a case. He reluctantly agreed and refunded my paypal payment after he received them from me.


    The overall workmanship was not good. The distances of the doghouses from the pins were not consistent (this is not a big deal), some welding points were not deburred perfectly and I had to go over them with a file, and some flopper holes were not centered in the shaft.

  • Blow gun fishing.

    Aren't blow guns supposed to be used with poison to be an effective hunting tool? What the hell is that guy shooting squirrels for.

  • Shaft Overhang

    Ray Odor shafts are not straight plain and simple. If you don't know this it's because you haven't purchased more than the couple of shafts you got lucky with that were straight.

  • Shaft Overhang

    Yes muttons are like that, there's a high chance of losing them because they go crazy when hit. They are very good candidates for an angled head shot.

  • Shaft Overhang

    Not getting stone shots doesn't mean your aim is mediocre. Maybe you're just not aiming for stone spot. I have a habit that is hard for me to break, I tend to shoot for center mass. So I almost never get stone shots unless for example it's a big unwary hog fish and I have all the time in the world. It is however definitely a turning point in one's confidence and hunting ability when you find yourself aiming to stone and and stoning fish. Still on some fish, like mackerels, you aim for center mass no matter what.

  • Shaft Overhang

    More like Dan was doing some missing with the incorrect overhang :) My aim became good once I increased the overhang from 10" to 13". 13" is also what Riffe uses.

  • Spearshaft to shooting line quick-connect?

    I did say to cut off the swivel and Jeff did say that he doesn't want to crimp. Unless by hand crimps you mean a special type of crimp that can be secured without a tool? Anyways those escape proof snaps are pretty small once the swivel is removed. I also think that for short range shooting in the low vis situations the drag of the swivel will not affect accuracy.

  • Spearshaft to shooting line quick-connect?

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    I realize that if it keeps coming up it's an important issue to you. I also thought about it before but settled for bringing a second pre rigged shaft on every dive. This kills two birds with one stone in the eventuality that you bend a shaft. I coil the mono (a small coil but the mono doesn't kink) and secure it to the shaft with small zip ties. It's very neat and easily deployed. This way I also don't have to bring a backup gun.

  • Interesting video

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    .....................................................................................................................................................................................................Kudos to Rolo






    OK I'm bored so I'm downloading the video from utube to watch it at my leisure. If it's any good I will then enlighten you with my interpretation so you can all sleep better at night :fart4: