why would anyone want to spear a garibaldi, is the meat good? In FL it is illegal to spear any "ornamentals" like parrotfish, puerto rican hogs, angels etc. which if we had garibaldis im sure they would be considered an ornamental.
What is the criteria for a fish to be considered ornamental in Florida? Seems like it could be very subjective. The juvenile Garibaldi are very cool looking fish.
what are the regulations on those crabs?
thanks
Last time I went for rock crab it was a 4"minimum size across the carapice and a limit of 35. Not sure if the rules have changed. You need to have a measuring device.
Nice catch. I would skip the bugs and take the crabs. Good eats.
Nice report Zen.
Be careful pulling bugs while in possession of a spear gun. DFG could potentially cite you.
http://spearfishing.world/foru…earfishing-locations.html
I suggest we all read some of the forum policies and think about when making reports. This is obviously for our own safety. I will be trying to keep my location reports generalized like "la Jolla" or "front-side cat". I would think that this applies when asking for dive buddies as well.
Good point and also remember that the first post in a California thread is not private. Any sensitive info should start in the second post. Its a good feature that prevents lazy lurkers from benefiting without contributing.
Mike
This "drama" is not old, it's ongoing and damaging, having repercussions in the real world, and spearfishermen need to be made aware. I too have met people through spearboard, but no thanks is due to the grogan. As mentioned before he didn't create spearboard, and under his ownership spearboard became a reflection of the grogan's personality. If through all the BS you manage to get your voice heard on SB, and connect with people of like mind, it's in spite of Spearboard not because of it. That is actually the main point of this thread which I'm trying to get across. Spearboard is huge and it inevitably attracts a lot people, drawing them away from other forums and/or preventing other forums from being created in the first place. Once there members are conditioned to accept the BS as being part of the forum experience. Spearboard wears people down and before you know it your negative online personality is formed. You continue to have a negative experience but keep coming back because you think this is how it is, not knowing there are other options. That is the spearboard monopoly.
BTW this is how you can easily post or pm a censored link on spearboard http://spearfishing.world/memb…orum-link-censorship.html
Good observations...
Nice pics Dan. Congrats.
got in around 8:15...south laguna. great viz (crystal clear to the end of the range on my c8 light) no halis seen, bugs were crawling in shallow. deeper spots werent so productive. grabbed 3 nice bugs. nothing massive, but the kind you know are legal way before you put a gauge to them. very surgy. got chased by a very obnoxious harbor seal. after an hour my buddies light died, and we decided to call it. had that not happend, it would not have been to difficult to limit. two other divers getting in as we were getting out.
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Find a spot that is not accessible to bubble blowers, hoop netters and commercial trappers.
Age might be a factor.
I know that they tend to eat the kelp and in large numbers can lead to barren areas. Was the area being deemed an MPA soon a heavily hunted area for bugs? But I hope that works man, I know kelp is a vital part of the ecosystem there as well. Actually never dove in Kelp; always wanted to though. Cheers.
Yes. The urchins are an issue but its not entirely due to over harvesting of bugs. Teams of divers with the Santa Monica Baykeepers ( Santa Monica Baykeeper ) actively remove urchins by the thousands to help with kelp restoration. I believe that these lobsters contribution to reef health is more important than my culinary enjoyment of the species. I have no interest in mounting the bug as a trophy. Its a personal choice.
What damage is the urchin population causing? I am not familiar with the Cali ecosystem but I know the lack of the urchin is a huge reason for the decline of coral cover in S. FL and the Keys as they are grazers and consume algae that smothers the reefs. As far as I know there has been no real indicator of what caused their decline here. I know that urchin also eat kelp though, is that what you are attempting to circumvent? But I would caution against adjusting or altering marine ecosystems without a good scientific base for it as what seems like a good idea on the surface could cause a trophic cascade effect that was unintentional but ultimately bad/counterproductive for the ecosystem. Also some MPAs are not just no take zones but it is also illegal to alter the area in any way including adding species. From how far away are you bringing these lobster? There could be a good reason they are not there already, especially considering a viable food source like the urchin.
On a side note I wasn't aware that lobster ate urchin.
Google "urchin barrens and lobster". Lots of good info. Thanks for your input.
Hi Don,
I can take you somewhere loaded with 10# bugs. Please PM me.
-Al
Aquariums don't count Al....
JK dude. Good luck out there!
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Sounds like you're talking about Bill Mac. You may not know that 5 years ago the grogan banned Bill for 30 days for fighting with moderators. Bill came back like a scolded puppy, and doesn't tangle with management any more. Now he takes out his frustrations on other members exclusively.
The way SB has turned Bill into spearfishing's "tool of the century" is sad. Borderline elder abuse...
Display MoreI agree not about spearfishing its about access , but if we give them a freaking inch they will take a mile :@
KEEP FIGHTING guys props thos the Defenders of the Childrens pool!!!
I took my boy down to "ground zero" last year , he really put those guys in there place, they freaked out when they relized the boy they were talking to was smarter then they were
Noah Acevedo speaks up for the Children's Pool at the San Diego City Council 2/17/2009 - YouTube
Thats good stuff.
I would presume it makes you initial dive much easier and quieter and less weight on your belt so there are no sliding issues. Just took a look and I think I will be ordering one when I can get in the water again.
It puts the weight over your lungs where you are naturally most buoyant. Less stress on the lower back. The Speardiver weight vest is a good product. Dropping down is smoother.
Its not a spearfishing issue and its probably not a good idea to make it into one. Good luck and be very careful with those people.
