Posts by silverspearo

Quote from Akira dkt

Ive used the 50m hatch reel (red tide etc...) it works fine. It is by no means in the same class as higher end reels like ULUSUB, Aussie Reel, or ERMES/MEANDROS, but it gets the job done. I started using this reel because it is easy to install, and it is light.

Ive used ulusub and aussies on shorter railguns 100cm> and they tend to make the gun negative.
The drag is basic, nothing to brag about. Line (especially stiffer dyneema cores and poly core) tends to get wrapped on the shaft between the mount and the spool, not when a fish is running, but after the run when reeling back slack line. But for general purposes it does the job.

I have also used the composite speardiver reel, I would say the performance is on par, a little bulkier and 90% composite, but it does the job. It makes a great belt reel.:thumbsup2:

I have an aussie reel (bought into the hype) I like it, no line tangles, good drag. I feel like the money is in the clamp style reel mount though, very innovative. (why arent other brands doing something similar??) With the spool sitting so close to the mount there is a small (very small) chance of friction fusing the plastic on a long fast run. (theres a video floating around the internet of a wahoo causing an aussie to fuse)

Ulusub reel as far as smooth reliable performance is my pick. rarely have tangles, spool and mount is rock solid. Its just as Dan said a little bulky and heavy. It is made of a teflon composite i believe, this eliminates the possiblity of friction causing damage to spool (no fusing).

Yet to try a vertical reel, but i dont think these will be appropriate for a sling IMO.

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Cheers for all this info - really helpful and I'm thinking money spent on a ulusub is the way forward - but will check first that it won't make the sling negative. As the sling is small and I've only checked buoyancy with a med sized fly reel. Spent many years working on water quality buoys in Scotland UK so interested to see your job... Clearer waters I imagine! Best wishes Rick

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Chears thanks for this and the link - Rick

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Quote from Diving gecko

Well done, looks great.

As for the UK sling, I think the Ulusub reel is much bigger than needed. I like the simple looks of it, though which would match your sling nicely.

But that said, I think an LGSub reel would work great, too. It looks a bit more high tech, but I think that would still look pretty cool on wood. They come in all sizes and could be countersunk in to the wood like in this thread.

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Cheers gecko ! I'll take a looksee

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Would you mind posting the link for sourcing this ulusub reel on the net - can't find a supplier (UK) ?

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Quote from Stonecutter

This was done with cheap flat chisels and a small hammer in my kitchen. Just go slow, and it'll come out fine.

I did this for a simple reason. If you're a fan of Ulusub guns, you already appreciate the quality of the guns and the design. With the way the reel base in set into the gun, you have a stronger connection ( as it was explained to me) as opposed to just screwing the reel base directly on the bottom of the gun. So, in my mine it's working like a mortise and tenon joint, instead of a butt joint. This is the way all the reels are set on Ulusub guns, and that's good enough for me..and it makes sense. Ill get to try it out Monday so I'm glad to have it done.

Take care, and happy hunting.

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Thanks for posting this sequence stonecutter! You've done a lovely job and just sold the idea to me for my humble sling - though imagine the base plate will be too small on my rig to accommodate this (maybe I could cut it down a bit to fit or there is a smaller version of the ulusub reel that do the trick!

I only have a 5x8cm area to play with you see. But like Pete pointed out earlier I'm really interested in just improving my retrieve and live handling for relatively small fish such as a lively bass - so I'm not after a hefty set up. Your pictures will help mind - as I'd previously not thought of physically modifying the structure of the gun - but like you say it makes sense. Cheers Rick

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Quote from popgun pete

Seems that the old plastic reel has passed into history, but you can see them here and there must be something very similar today.

Academy – Australian Fishing Museum

http://australianfishingmuseum…DEMY_FISHING_REEL_020.JPG

This one is green, but they were either black or white when I was buying them.

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Cheers Pete - when I look at these it makes me think an all plastic fly fishing reel will do the trick for me - modified to fit. Rely appreciate your postings - I'll look on line again at spear reels and make the call!

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Cheers - rick

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Quote from Dan

Silverspearo, I don't understand your question. There is only one way to attach the reel, it looks like this.

https://spearfishing.world/image/reel-attached-to-sling.jpg

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Cheer Dan - all is clear!

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Quote from popgun pete

Here is the front end of that gun with the pranger head. This is a short tine or barb version, there are longer ones for a deeper reach into the meat of bigger specimens and slightly more streamlined versions for higher speed, but you still need to be close for the shot and have a reasonably powerful gun. Not too much power or you will dissipate energy in turbulence behind the pranger head.

Thanks Pete - like the paralyser tip on the AB Biller pile spear I use - what a classic looking speargun! Thanks for taking the time to post these pictures

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Quote from Dan

Not sure what you mean by flat or vertically. I would mount it where it doesn't interfere with the grip and stretching/contracting of the bands.

Sorry - not well explained - the spot is clear ( front underside) but would it be attached with the drum flat/ parallel to the gun - or hanging firmly below - fitted with the drum vertically (like a fishing reel) - if you get my drift?

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So based on mounting a plastic /composite reel (fixed with brass or good as to the team) - Q: based on your experience would you mount flat or vertically on my sling? Or does it make no real difference?

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Quote from Dan

In general depending on the metal thickness used, stainless steel and aluminum reels are not a good choice because they deform easily. If the gun has any weight just dropping it on the boat deck reel down will bend the reel spool. If the metal is thick enough for the spool to be sturdy the reel becomes too heavy and sinks the gun even without the shaft. By contrast plastic/composite reels have a springy quality, when the material is good the plastic reel can take a good whack without losing its shape or breaking. The steel reel spool will deform when simply dropped on a hard floor from chest level, the plastic reel will just bounce around. The metal bracket of that particular Headhunter reel will deform if you just sneeze on it.

Thanks for this - any particular make or modal you could recommend?

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I'll not bother with this one then - I go for durability!

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Quote from Silentstoning

Stainless steel. Definitely pre drill the hole.

Thanks for the advice - it seems to make sense to avoid stressing the wood
Rick

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Quote from Chase

Should check out headhunter. They have teak slings and reels that mount to slings for a decent price.

Cheers for that - I'll take a look

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Thanks for taking the time to reply Pete - good quality brass for me then - with a small hole to avoid a splitting I'm thinking! You've got my imagination going with a oranger head and have to see one of these! I simply must have one as it sounds so cool ; ) I'll google it and see what comes up.

Off spearfishing from the shore nw Anglesey - an island off North Wales early next week so make have a go with a longer line and an old fly reel I own - and then think about a more permanent rig taking on board some of these suggestions.

Best wishes Rick

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Quote from Dan

The Speardiver reel is good and will easily mount on your sling, no modifications required. Freedive Store will ship to the UK.

https://spearfishing.store/21-…mposite-speargun-reel.jpg

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Thanks Dan - this looks exactly the right kind of design O had in mind and will take a looksee on-line
at prices etc. Rick

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Quote from popgun pete

Another possibility is to buy a cheap moulded all-plastic fishing reel and cut off the rod attachment post flush with the edge of the reel. The reel is then affixed by two wood screws placed through the backing plate after dismantling the drum off the spindle and would probably fit under your shooter. Here is a home-made band gun using an "Academy" fishing reel in a drum mounting. I have shot plenty of fish with it and few have ever escaped.

Would you recommend brass or stainless screws? Which in teak I suppose you would need to drill a smaller hole to avoid the risk of splitting the wood?

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Quote from popgun pete

Well I have never seen a Hawaiian sling type shooter with line wrap rigging like that, but I take it you want more line just in case. Rather than a reel have you thought of a line pack which is a closed plastic cylinder (such as a tube plastic pencil case) with lengths of line wrapped back and forth inside (held in the wraps by a disposable rubber band) and only deploys when line pull from the standard line opens it up by pulling off the end cap. Otherwise it just drags along behind your weapon being relatively streamlined. A reel is good for the retrieve, but hard to wind mounted on a device such as you are using. Other line solutions have been line stuffed back and forth through a hole cut in a solid rubber ball and line wrapped on a conical spool where the line pulls off the narrow end. In the old days everything was tried, so a look into the past may provide you with some other solutions.

I am attaching a photo of a gun with a line pack. Ignore the scale, but the principle used for extra line will be the same

These alternative's sound really interesting though I have visions of fiddling with lengths of line in a swell which is common in uk waters! Worth having a go though and could be improvised as a trial run. The dyne ma line I use is slightly stiff so could work well folded or stuffed into a capsule - held with a band like you say! Thanks

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Quote from ladvr

Nice looking sling Rick. Do you have any video of it being fired with the line release being deployed?

Pete - thanks I like and favour this idea - cheers. Also liking you speargun which I'm guessing is a home build?

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