Posts by hank
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Well the one time I did miss…..
….the fish knew right away that I'm an aggressive predator. And they have hung around for a few seconds thinking…."what was that…..oooohhhhhh…f**k this, we're outa here". Of course, I only hunt intelligent fish…… <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">But, i have seen Daryl Wong shoot three Kole (small surgeon fish) in one dive as he laid on the bottom with a Hawaiian sling, which obviously is a very fast loading gun. So yeah….hey….I'm learning.
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I've never shot….or even seen a roller gun. But i don't think reloading speed is really a big issue anyway.
I can't recall even one time where being able to reload even 20 seconds faster would have made a difference in getting another fish.
If a school of fish is around and I get one….dog snapper?, mutton?…whatever we hunt here, and I get one, it takes minutes to get a decent sized fish off the shaft and, in my case, usually on the boat. But even if I used a stringer, it would take a bit of time to load a fish onto there.
Given all that time, what's a few more seconds needed to load a gun?I have had a jack or fish on where a few other snappers came up to look. But before I even got the fish off the shaft, they were gone.
Maybe with other species in other parts of the ocean it's different, but that's what I've experienced.
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Do you guys think the fish are surviving these failed head shots? Even if you don't get penetration that's still a massive blow to the skull.
The only gauge I have to guess at this is how many fish (tilapia) we lose when transferring and TRYING to be very gentle, from hatchery to ponds. I've seen the fish get tossed from about 6 feet above the water and you could hear them slap as they landed. We didn't see dead fish that day but over the next 3 days a lot floated up.
It's something we'll never really know. If he's stunned and lolly gagging around, sharks might nail him. ??
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Head shots are pretty much all about angel though, no? My buddy Andre doesn't use strong bands. And when I pulled a 55 lb cubera to the surface, still alive but very weak, he shot it right in the head (we didn't want to lose it at that point). Deep penetration. But it was perpendicular to the skull. A glancing blow might not work but straight in? They're hard headed but ……
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pic of a cubera I hold in my arms... as if I felt fear it escapes... taken after several long hours chasing!I was trying to hold this one in my arms after I shot it and my shooting line broke. I guess he wasn't in a romantic mood and didn't want to be hugged so he busted me in the mouth with his head. <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">
I got back to the boat where my wife and daughter were. They thought it was funny as hell with the blood coming out of my mouth and the fish in my hand…. -
isn't that a dog snapper in this picture?.. the white triangle.. the shape
most of the time cubera looks like a gigantic gray snapper
the pic come from a vid here an other pic from the vid after the shot..;)Yep, that's a cubera alright. Thanks for the clarification.
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I think I have a new avatar…
<img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">Yeah, at least you'll look like the old fart you've become instead of that 18 year old in your present avatar. <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">
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interesting report!
did my first steps (Cuba) with cubera by using this kind of setup (euro 120 +7,5mm sahft) and lost about fiftee per cent of targeted fish ...
So I early changed by using mini ice pick spear tips style
hunting cubera in a wreck needs most of the time a killshot because then frustration is on the spearo side!;)Not to be persnickety or anything
, but isn't that a dog snapper in this picture? The white triangle under the eye? And the shape.I find them to be the masters at holing up after a non kill shot. Cuberas, even the few larger ones I've shot, will make a good first run but then kind of peter out. But they don't hole up….I mean bury themselves and disappear in the coral.
I had to strap on scuba to get a dog out that had taken my 100 foot float line, 12 foot bungee and 18 feet of shooting line straight down. Vertical. When I got down to the rock he'd gone in, I had to crawl in and reach back up over my head on a shelf, to get him out.
Even El Marco might not have been able to get that one out on a breath hold.. <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin"> Jake didn't even try. t used a half of a 80 liter scuba tank getting that fish….and my spear back.
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I have a healthy respect for those fish now bc of my experience. That was the first cubera I've ever seen so to lose such a fish really sucks. If they were common in the areas I dive I would be setup for worst case scenario but I have a feeling that if I bump into another one im gonna be carrying a similar setup 120-130 rail gun with flopper shaft... Very cool picture Virgili!
Maybe that scale was pinning your flopper to the shaft so it didn't open?
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I've never shot a cubera larger than maybe 20 lbs through the head so maybe it could bounce off. But that wouldn't have screwed up the tip of the shaft…..I don't think anyway. The fish may be hard headed as my Honduran wife
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Are you using a reel? Or did you free shaft and almost go through the fish?
If you had a reel and a flopper shaft, like Dan suggested, your shaft probably came out and hit something hard under the fish. It didn't go through far enough for the flopper to open and he slipped off?
You'll lie awake many a night thinking about this….:confused2::confused2:
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Before you read this, let me say that Mahatma Gandhi is one of my real life heroes. I wish I had the strength to live as he did. Having said that, I think even Mr Gandhi would have gotten a chuckle out of this assuming he'd seen Mary Poppins.
I put this on my Facebook page but a guy I trained in India was pretty offended. I deleted it and messaged him the explanation. He's cool now.
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I got my limit of red snapper, one of which my buddy saved by shooting a Cobia off a bull that followed me and my snapper up.
]Free diving red snapper? I've seen them in the market here and the guys catching say they're like…300 feet deep. I fished for them in Hawaii at night and that was how deep we fished. Have you recently taken a free diving course or what? :@ <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">
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I was joking Ramon, there's nothing new about deliberate misinformation to further someone's agenda. Here's one by the Sea Shepherds against spearfishing.
Too bad he missed a stone shot. He probably just pissed the bear off. <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin"> and bent the shaft…how much line do think the bear ran off?
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Lucky you and welcome to Speardiver.
Basically, the south side of the islands get waves from April ….to Sept Oct. The swells are produced from storms and hurricanes in the south and west Pacific.
Then from Nov to Mar or so, the North shore starts getting waves from the storms in the Bering sea and northwest Pacific. (ever watch Deadliest Catch? those are the waves)There are a few exceptions. As to reports, there are numerous sites online http://www.prh.noaa.gov/hnl/pages/SRF.php and most radio stations give periodic reports during the day.
Wongspearguns.com If you're in need of a speargun, contact Daryl Wong. He is really helpful and may take you out diving. And he makes nice guns. I met a few military guys who dived with him fairly regularly while living there.Enjoy. You are, in my fairly traveled opinion, in one of the nicest places on Earth.
