Posts by spearstuff

Freedive spearfishermen hating on scuba spearfishermen. Or rod and reel fishermen hating on spearfishermen. It's all the same.

Ethics and perception is the cause of the hatred.

Ethically one group believes the standard for killing certain fish should be set at a difficult level. Animosity between the groups begins when that first group perceives another group as being able to kill those certain fish with a set difficulty of easy.

in other words freedivers perceive scuba divers as being able to shoot fish with far too much ease. And this bothers them. Not so much in a jealous way, but more in an unethical way. Jealousy is one thing, but breaking someone's ethical code now that is what really brings out the hate in people.

at least that's my opinion

Well just finished reading your report. Man you had some epic diving down there Davis! Whale shark, monster gulf groupers, plenty of nice fish taken. That sounded like a perfect trip

But I must say I'm a little disappointed that your cabrillo wasn't a gulf grouper, lol.

Quote from Sockeye

Daniel-
I could use some positive ocean karma, let me know if you need a lead diving buddy.
-Marco

Maybe, you'd have to drive up to my place to check out my spots or I could head down to your house and we could explore some spots in San Diego. Just let me know what your up for.

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That's cooll....really makes you think about how much lead is out there. That is a shit load just in one shallow spot, let alone up and down the coast. Nice work.

If I were you I save it up, buy a mold for lead weights, smelt some dive weights and make a little cash. Either that or sell them back to fishermen, just make 2lb. grab bags of assorted sinkers and charge them $2 bag

I thought about selling the lead back to fishermen, but then I kinda got lazy to the idea of making a couple bucks at a time.

Also I don't really want to sell any of the lead "as is", because I've found that just grabbing one lead sinker will cause lead dust to rub off on to my fingers. This is probably caused by the rough surface of the lead caused by the years of tumbling in the ocean. So I'm thinking that once I melt down the lead sinkers into dive weights the surface of the lead will be smooth and the lead dust issue won't be a problem.

I'll probably spend an entire day.. one of these days.... melting it all down into dive weights. I kinda want to melt the lead at Monarch Beach since there's a fire pit and plenty of wood around, but it's all on my future to do list. Which may take a while to get around to <img src= " height="23" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x">

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Here's some more lead from my last dive. I didn't bring a float so I only grabbed around 8lbs before I started to sink.

Later on I saw this one rock that had an oddly uniform shape to inside 1ft round hole. Without wondering what it could be I just dove down to check it out. Turned out to be a really old weight belt with around 12 lbs of weight on it. It must have been sitting there for ages, cause the sea weed was so encrusted around the belt the only way I could get the dive weights out was by cutting the belt to bits.

Two for one, wow that's one slick shot!

The only two for one scenario I've had was when I lined up for a calico and got a bonus opaleye that just happened to swim buy. Nowhere as noteworthy as your catch Ron~

Haha I can't wait to make my super hole gun at Dean's shop. You're gun looks sweet, but mine is going to be a one of a kind~

Quote from Ramon

spearstuffTienes un tesoro ajajjeajjeej <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">
ya no necesitas comprar plomo para hacerte los pesos del cinturón ajajjeej:nono:

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Have you found a treasure ajajjeajjeej <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">
no longer need to purchase lead weights to make the belt ajajjeej :nono:

Haha I don't know what to say to that, but thanks

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Good stuff!

I was thinking Mike, you should start posting more pics to your website again and get more people into cleaning up trash from the beach. That shoredivers challenge was a fun event last time you did it. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to get some more sponsors.

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great post bro, I enjoyed the vid a great deal! thats a heap load of lead. amazing. And they keep keep saying that we spearfishermen are the environmental threat! >(

Ah but it's not like spearfishermen are completely innocent. I know I've lost at least a dozen pounds of lead diving weights in the past.

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Sweet, but you seriously need some new gloves... I need to find me a mold for some old school bullet weights. Here at out house we have well over 70 pounds in dive weights and probably some more in another garage we have. If you find one I'm more than willing to split the cost of the mold.

haha yah I'm wearing some other gloves now, the lead diving killed those old gloves. As for molds I know Mark and ScienceMike both have some sort of dive weight mold, maybe we could borrow their's one of these days.

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did you find the lead concentrated in small groups like that or did you put them together for the video?

Yep you normally find the lead concentrated in small groups like that. The video shot from :30 to around 1:10 was exactly how I found the lead. And the other pile of lead in the video all came from a single hole a couple feet away.

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I would love some shitty old lead to make custom weights and ballasts. Very good idea and clean up move. You can't dive fishing piers or jetties here or I'd clean house

That sucks.Yah I've wanted to do the same thing at fishing piers at lakes out here in Southern California, but 99% of the lakes in SoCal have a ban on swimming because we use the lake water for drinking. Even though there's fish in the lake and people can chuck lead sinkers in it all day long.

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What are you doing with all of that? Recycling for dough? Probably burn through a pair of gloves before you make enough to get a new pair.

Good on ya though for cleaning up out there.

I'm not planning on making any money out of this. It's just a fun hobby which is good for the environment and feels a lot like treasure hunting (even though the treasure is practically worthless). I just checked an ebay auction tonight, and saw that similar but brand new lead sinkers are selling for 50 cents per pound. Just imagine how much these rusty, banged up, crusty old sinkers would go for <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">

As for the glove in the video, I've been using it for over a year (the majority of glued up holes were caused by lobster diving).

So what do I do with all the lead? Well right now I dump all the extra lead in a bucket in my garage. But sometime in the future I plan on melting it all down into spare dive weights, which'll get me a lifetime supply. That way if any of my friends ever want to try out diving he/she won't have to spend the sky high prices for dive weights that you find at the local dive shops.

Well a couple of months ago I took ladvr's lead and started diving for lead.
And I do believe I got a little addicted. I started by grabbing a handful of lead
sinkers after hunting fish and not long after that I began dedicating my entire dives
to solely picking up lead. I even skipped out on wsb diving to go hunt for lead
Man were my dive buddies giving me a ton of shit for that. Luckily my latest
dive has run the lead craze out of me and I think I'll return to hunting fish from
now on, at least for the near future

Anyways I thought you guys might enjoy the pics and video's I made in my leadhunting~

Here's a short video I filmed around a month ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRm--B10JVE

Below is a pic of a typical underwater lead stash

And here's my latest haul from last Saturday, over 70lbs from 2 separate dives.
I could have gone for the sweat 100lbs in one day, but I was feeling beat so I decided
to spend the 3rd dive looking for fish instead <img src= " height="23" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x">

...boy am I beat

Damnit Davis! You so have an unfair advantage owning a house in Gonzaga Bay. I need to get my ass back down there!

Arg! I don't know if I want to read the report, seeing these pictures are getting me way to jealous right now. I'll have to read it later when I calm down.

BTW did you get any video this trip Davis?

If only I lived closer to Malibu, I know I'd be hunting for those myself <img src= " height="23" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x">
Nice find Mike!

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Since gopro hasn't yet released their battery chargers, Alex must be using a third party charger. It could have the wrong output and may have damaged the battery.

Yep that could be a possibility. I didn't know gopro relied on third party chargers.

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Could be the USB port of your PC is not outputting adequate power. Or that your battery is dead. Try gopro support, they're very efficient. Also if your camera was bought recently it should be under warranty. Obviously the issues you're experiencing are not normal.

It has to be the battery (if not then there's a serious problem with the camera) since Alex has been using the wall charger and not a PC charger recently. I think the camera was bought within a year and I know the camera has only been used only a handful of times.

ah I wish I could go

Quote from Ryddragyn

Which one? I had three over 18 pounds:captngrin:

Haha that's what I'm talking about! I know I shot 2 nice sized carp during that tournament, but somehow I only had one nice sized carp by the final weigh in and you had 3. That's why I was eying your big carp trio during the weigh in with some interest.

Alex you know I was jealous when you pulled out that lunker of a carp to get weighed. I was really hoping it was one I shot and it accidentally got mixed in with your batch, but I had to admit you shot it after looking at the hole placement. Congrats again

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very cool! I like your team name. What are the standings/results on the right side of the board?

I don't think anyone has a picture of the full scoreboard, but....

You can count the number of carp shot and add that to the number of pounds to get the total score for each team. Just pull out your calculator to see who the winners are~

Nice going Chris those are some big ones!

Put those two together and you've got yourself another legal c-bass <img src= " height="23" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x">