well in mexico it is legal to kill them like bsb but unlike bsb we cannot bring any back to california.
hmm well this woman doesn't change the DFG laws, she merely states what is on the books. Right now it illegal to simply posses a garibaldi in California. That's why you can spear them in Mexico, but you can't bring them back to California.
Nothing I could ask would change that fact.
ask her about garibaldi and how we cant bring them back to cali.
Care to elaborate more on that? I want to respond, but I can't tell where you're going with that statement.
Turning in Wasted Waterfowl | California Outdoors Q and A
Is it legal to spearfish a marlin while diving?
Question: I had an argument with my friend over whether or not we could spear a marlin while diving. I know that you can’t spear broadbill, but I looked up the allowed fish that spearfishermen can take and the regulations don’t say anything about marlin (see Title 14 section 28.90). But my friend read that section and he said a broadbill is a marlin, so that means I can’t spear those fish. Is he right? (Anonymous)
Answer: It is legal to spearfish for marlin but not for broadbill swordfish – they are different species!
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Carrie Wilson is a marine biologist with the California Department of Fish and Game. While she cannot personally answer everyone’s questions, she will select a few to answer each week. Please contact her at CalOutdoors@dfg.ca.gov.
Although I've never seen a Marlin in the water before...
look like you got some nice ones. im going out. ill post a report. dont worry it will not be in YOUR thread
Take some pics 
My advise is to dive as many soon to be closed MLPA zones as you can. Those areas will be gone forever by January. So even if you get skunked in Laguna or somewhere else, just keep diving it. You won't get this chance again.
Just one greeting for Wes;) What kind of a Cali welcome is that?;)
Cheers, Don
It just feels so geeky for to me to say welcome to people on an online forum, but...
Welcome aboard Wes 
haha I was wondering when you'd find your way over here Josh.
The way SB has turned Bill into spearfishings "tool of the century" is sad. Borderline elder abuse...
haha <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">
That's really incredible you got it back in to working order.
A perfect example of the phrase, "One man's trash is another man's treasure."
haha even with the tried and true fish pose that yellowtail still looks like a sardine <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">
But the weather sure was great out there this weekend. Sunny and warm, perfect for good times on the island
I'm back and now I care even less about what I said before.
I did present the facts, you're reading too much into it. I don't dwell on the grogan or go to spearboard. Because I don't I'm not aware most of the time of the current controversies. Guys send me information, probably because it irks them and they want it out in the open, but they're not in a position to post it publicly. As was the case with the email in the beginning of this thread, BTW notice the date of the first post, it's a year and a half old. I find myself becoming a hub of sorts for this kind of information. Truthfully I wish others would man up and post these things so I don't have to. Other than that like I said I very rarely go on Spearbored. This one time I did and was reminded why I don't, so I felt like getting it off my chest, didn't want to start a thread about it, so I tacked it on to this one.
I know Dan you did present the facts. You just added in stuff like, " as soon as I click new posts I see repugnant shit.... and ....I believe it gives him a hard on to be in imaginary control of people's lives." That was what concerned me at the time.
But you know, going back to the original issue. I've got to agree that the panama thread was the worst thread I have ever seen on spearboard. It should have been deleted before it ever got to the second page. But Tony seemed to personally choose to keep that thread open. It does make you wonder what the heck he was thinking?
So the Grogan in fact does visit this forum and decided to ban me after reading this topic, that guy is truly a sociopath
poor guy must live a sad dark life
:@ Well that sucks.
If it rubs you wrong to see the site owner do it let me ask you a question. Does a site owner not have the right to express their opinions? Yes the owner has the right to express his opinions, and I won't care all that much if he keeps on doing it. This is Dan's website after all. Do you mind it if it is intended to sway you or just because it is being shared? Just the fact that it's being shared in such an overly negatively way bothers me. Might doing so on a private thread on this forum be the best place to do such venting or does it have no place at all? Ideally venting like this (when it comes from the owner) shouldn't be done on a private thread such as this, because anyone that signs up to this website has the chance to read it.
Please read these as genuine questions of interest because I want to understand your feelings on this. No sarcasm or any pejorative attitude at all
I just felt that Dan is the emblem of this forum. His words mean more than any other member on here. Not because he makes the rules, but because he is at the top of this social internet hierarchy.
Personal hatred or disgust, for Grogan seems to be a recurring theme on this forum. Most often originating from Dan himself.
It's just over the top to me.
Ideally I'd like to see Dan scale back the hate speech and just present the facts of the matter instead. But that's Dan's call not mine.
Anyways I don't feel all that strongly about this issue. It's not like I'm going to put my foot down and demand a change. Ir's just an issue that nags at the back of my mind when I think about it too much.
P.S. haven't read the rest of the comments yet. Too tired. I'll try responding later.
Ha that one Technical Spearfishing picture is pretty funny.
But to tell the truth, all this complaining over spearboard is just rubbing me the wrong way. Not that I'm pro-Grogan or anything. It just feels like you put too much effort into reminding us how bad Grogan is.
I don't know. I guess I'd feel differently if you were just another member on this board. But since you're the owner of the forum it just seems wrong the way you speak about Grogan.
I just expect an owner of a respectable company to never bad mouth the competition. If the competition is bad, let your followers complain about how bad it is. The owner should stand above it all and just be proud that their product is so superior that it does not need to point out all the flaws the competition has.
I mean just look at this comment you wrote below. You would never see the president of Coca-Cola say something as vulgar about the Pepsi president. Even if the Pepsi president was at fault on the matter. It just shows poor character in my opinion.
I go to sb rarely. It never fails, as soon as I click new posts I see repugnant shit like this www.panamaspearfishing.com vs. www.spearfishingpanama.com - Spearboard Spearfishing Community It never fails to give me a lingering nasty feeling. Notice the grogan purposefully lets the thread stand. I believe he's excited to be in imaginary control of people's lives.
Round three - Laguna Beach
Well I didn’t plan or particularly want to dive Laguna Beach yesterday, but Josh called me up and said he’s diving tonight (10/7/2011) so I said, “Why not?”
I knew conditions weren’t going to be optimal. Surfline.com was reading 4-5ft of surf with occasional 6ft sets rolling in. But I drove out anyways.
Down on the beach I could tell this was no beginner’s dive. Waves were a little on the large size and swell looked like it had some strength to it. It could be a pretty rough night; all depends on what the conditions are like underwater.
Still I was just glad I was diving with Josh. Not that he’d save me or anything if something went wrong. It’s just nice to dive with someone who keeps a positive attitude in less than stellar conditions.
Well we jumped in. And I was soon reminded why I loved my longblade fins so much, because the swell was pretty strong. Yanked is the word I would describe the feeling of the swell pulling me through the water. It wasn’t so bad 90% of the time. It was just those extra large sets had the strength to really pull you through the water, +15ft at a time. I forgot the details, but Josh had a pretty close call with one of the sets.
But ignoring that, we headed out to the right reef. Almost before we reached our spot I grabbed a lone bug out on the crawl. It was short, but a crawling bug is always a good sign.
I laughed a little after I tossed the bug away and it swam straight into Josh 20ft away. Those things are like torpedoes in the water.
We reached the spot and soon split up in search of our limit.
After a few dives without seeing any legals I moved out to deeper water and noticed the commercial traps were out. I’m always curious to see what they caught so I dove on top of one. The metal cage was pretty empty except for one small legal bug crawling around inside. Scanning around the trap I soon noticed that wasn’t the only bug, another one was clawing on the outside of the cage trying to find its way in. I figured he’d fit better in my bag than in the cage. So I went in for the scoop. First legal of the night!
Grabbed another bug in shallow and went back to see how Josh was doing. He said he’d missed a bunch of legal bugs because of the rough conditions, but that he had 2 bugs as well.
Well the night was still early so we split up again. After that I started picking up one bug after another. Caught a couple 2.5lb sized bugs in two separate areas, both had wedged themselves on the rocky bottom out in the open away from any hole. Hardest part about grabbing them was hovering over their bodies without letting the swell pull me away.
Further into the dive I glanced to my left and saw three nice bugs sitting on top of a ledge next to a thick bundle of kelp. But as soon as I got a good look at them the swell moved in, pushing a kelp strand over their bodies. It completely covered them. All I could see was green seaweed waving about. Took a little bit of patience and some breath holding, but the swell soon reversed itself, pulling back their protective curtain to reveal 3 spiny bodies still sitting on top of that same ledge. Before those three amigos could figure out what I was up to, I reached out and grabbed the nearest one. Another legal in the bag.
Well I kept at it until I reached my limit. With a bag full of bugs I smiled thinking, “Seven less bugs for the MLPA.” Then I swam back to Josh to see how he’d done. His catch had increased by one, but Josh said he’d seen over his limit of legals on this dive. It was just that every time he went in for a nab the swell got in his way and he missed. That happened to me a couple times tonight too. Kinda unavoidable on a night like tonight.
So we called it quits and headed back to shore. 3 hours of diving and some nice bugs. Can't ask for anything more than that on a night dive :thumps:
Another Laguna Limiit
I would agree with that statement, but that fall and winter water sure is a bitch in a 5mil.
Great report as always. That Starbucks spot was a wee bit red the other nite...I just did some catch and release for practice.;) I can't wait to get to the island next week.
Is Tail still using the Pursuit mast he won at the OC Freedvers meeting ? I thought he's brain was a little too big for it to fit well.
Cheers, Don
That's why I wear a 7mil suit, nice and warm. ha well that and I trashed my 5mil suit from all the bugging I did last season. There's a hole every couple of inches on the top vest.
On spearboard I heard of at least one person getting sick from diving in the red tide. He must have swallowed too much red tide saltwater :nono:
haha I want to reply back with something funny about Josh, but I better not since he is my dive partner. I asked Josh about the mask and he said gave it to his little sister. She used it when they dove for abalone up in Mendocino.
If I get some time I will pull together some data on the lobster fishery and some studies on the breeding stock.
Sure I'd love to see any data you can put together. It's always fun to learn more about the things I catch.
Why do you relesase them? Are endangered? Protected? Not good to eat?
Sorry for the ignorance, but there's always something to learn out there.
California lobsters aren't endangered or protected. What Mike is doing is picking up the big bugs and moving them to an underwater zone that protects all living organisms, a no take zone.
IMO there is no real ecological benefit to move the big bugs to a newly created protected zone, because those zones after 20-30 years will be packed full of monster sized bugs that have grown inside those zones, without human intervention.
I'd guess the rational would be emotionally based. Since you feel good about saving one more big bug from getting eaten by another diver.
Thats pretty standard practice along with a few others to insure 100% success.
Sweet glad you knew.
Did you remember to hold the big lobsters underwater vertically to remove all of the trapped air in their carapace before you released them?
Trapped air in their carapace can cause those big lobsters to die, by drying out their gills. It could be a couple weeks, but they will die from it. Chris Oak has seen it happen to big lobsters at his aquarium.
As always a great report w amazing pics. I never never feel like your pics are boring. Always new and interesting
I try 
Nice bugs. Have you ever had the east coast's version of spiny lobster to make a taste comparison?
No I've never have. But I have talked to a friend recently that has eaten california, florida, and main lobsters and swears that main lobsters taste the sweetest and the best.
