Posts by hau

Tin Man---Your creation is beautiful. simply beautiful sir.
The curves in the shapelock really fits the design flow of the whole gun.
What a piece of art
I'm really impressed with how compact the whole gun is.
Perhaps in one of your pictures you could use something like a dollar bill or ruler to give a good size reference.
Thank you Tin Man

1. Does anyone know the inside diam ( ID ) of RA Vecta handle barrels?-----------Ans.= 1.05 inch. OD is 1.16inch
2. Does anyone know the inside diam ( ID ) of Aimrite Venom handle barrels?------Ans.= 1.00 inch. (Thanks for the personal service Rick )
3. Does anyone know the inside diam ( ID ) of Mako's Iconic barrel?---------Ans.= 1.05 inch ( 26.65mm) ( Thanks sdeisen )
4. Does anyone know the inside diam ( ID ) of Mako's Predator barrel?-------Ans.= 1.00 inch (25.40mm) ( Thanks sdeisen)
Thanks again for all your help
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Quote from Tin Man

The whole point of a euro is to keep the profile small, yes?

perfect Tin Man," you hit the nail on the head"

Marco--you are correct about the shaft wobble thing and overpowering a pipe gun

I prefer a pipe gun for lots of reasons and would prefer an enclosed track pipe gun for many more reasons. But it is just my humble preference.
For me, an enclosed track pipe gun would:
1. Faster to reload. Many times I have to load my spear shaft fast without taking my eyes off a fish or spot below. It is easier to just start the shaft into the end of the enclosed track barrel and slide it into the mech.
2. There is no reason that a shaft coming out of an enclosed track is LESS accurate than a shaft off of a rail and probably there is more evidence of an enclosed track shot shaft being MORE accurate.
3. Protect my spear shaft from injury while the shaft is in the gun. Less scratches and dings to the spear shaft "enclosed" in the CF
4. I pretty much grew up spearin with enclosed track homemade 6f wood guns in the GOM and got used to them
5. An enclosed track pipe gun would be very fast and easy to freeshaft with
This is just SOME of the reasons I personally prefer an "enclosed track pipe gun"

brothers----
1. First, thank you all for taking so much time to help me get an enclosed track pipe gun.
I really appreciate everyones time and effort.
2. There have been some very good, positive and constructive ideas presented by everyone on this thread.
Thank you

3. As I mentioned before, I have no shop or thousands of dollars worth of machines to fabricate anything. All I have is an idea of an "enclosed track pipe gun" barrel. (if I did have a shop I'd be busy producing 20f lengths of CF enclosed track barrel tubing in reef, ocean blue, and other colors) to fit onto RA, Aimrite, Mako and others existing handles )
The dream is to go to FF, buy an enclosed track CF RA barrel from Mike, come home, remove my existing CF rail barrel and install the new CF enclosed track barrel.
That is the dream.
Only detail is that an" enclosed track pipe gun" barrel does not exist
But with all your help and ideas maybe it will not be long before an "enclosed track pipe gun" will exist
Thank you all for helping me out

shiftyshaft---good luck bro
Hang in there an you'll get what you want
Patience is a virtue

Spearos---what do you think that a CF gun like this with a CF enclosed track, SS mech in either Euro, Euro X length WITH custom grip would easily sell for?
(For reference: RA CF starts at $470. Rabitech CF starts at $453. Aimrite CF starts at $380.)

Thanks

Bretto---those are some beautiful pictures of some beautiful guns. Very nice work

Nasty looking fingers though, you need to buff them up or something
Glad that the GUN is ok
Serously, wish you a speedy and full recovery bro

Tin Man---sic drawings.
Perfect mechanical of what the barrel cross section would look like.:)
AND, with the enclosed track on top of the barrel like your drawings, the bands would not be piled up on top of the barrel affecting the target view.

Sooooo----:idea2:
1.lets get someone to cast these barrels.
2. Put one of your muzzles on each barrel
3. Mount up a very low height profile mech at the desired gun length.
4. Use your trigger guard and grip tang assembly
5. Cut the back of the barrel off behind the trigger anywhere the customer wants, (Euro, Euro X, etc)
6. Include the Shape Lock with each gun to perfectly fit every new owners hand.

What do you guys think?

<img src= " height="23" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x"> I got one. <img src= " height="23" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x">

just not for sale, sorry

I have wanted an enclosed track rear handle pipe gun for years.
I don't care if it were teak, alum. or carbon fiber
I like a pipe gun better for where, what and how I spear.
The problem is that such a gun does not exist YET, as far as I know.
I do not have a shop or thousands of dollars of tooling and am happy with many guns like RA / Aimright and others EXCEPT that they ARE NOT enclosed track.
I don't want to reinvent a gun, just have a RA or Aimrite gun WITH an enclosed track
Soooooo, I got this idea and wrote to Tin Man.

hau quote --
"Another way to skin the cat"
Jeff--If you ever get tired of answering my questions please just say so as I will fully understand.
As you know I want an enclosed track rear grip gun, which doesn't exist YET.
Soooooo:
1. Why not take an existing CF barreled gun like RA, putting a shaft in the gun, then wrapping the barrel/shaft with a CF sleeve or two, after setting remove the shaft/dummy shaft and cutting a groove into the top for the shark fins?
Thank you --end quote

Originally Posted by Tin Man
You might have something there! On the plus side, it would be easy to do, and guaranteed to be compatible with existing handles and muzzles from RA, or whoever.

The only potential downside, is that the carbon fiber sticking up might be a little more fragile than with my design, where the track is supported from the sides. But CF is pretty strong, so as long as two or more layers were applied, it might hold up. It might have to be vacuum bagged to get the CF to match the contours at the top of the barrel though.

I just bought an el-cheapo vacuum pump that I have been meaning to try. As soon as I get my current gun finished, I'll play around with some scraps and see what I can do.

You might have something there. ---end of quote

hau quote--
Thank you.
1.Agreed to all you say.
2. I'm sure it would be more fragile when the shaft is OUT of the gun.
3. This approach to getting an enclosed track gun could even be used on almost any existing wood gun like a Riffe Standard, Comp, etc and the CF or kevlar sleeve would act to bullet proof any existing gun.
4. Do you have a good sourse for CF or kevlar sleeves that you would be willing to share with me?
Thank you for your consultation

Tin Man quote--
I get most of my CF stuff from www.sollercomposites.com, and they have colored kevlar blends as well. If you need fabric in larger pieces, I have gotten it from www.jamestowndistributors.com. I have also found that www.aircraftspruce.com has a lot of good stuff.--end quote

I'm asking for any constructive suggestions or opinions from anyone about my idea of an easy way to make an enclosed track gun.
What do you guys think of this idea?
Thanks in advance

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Yep, this whole gun built has has me drooling since day one.
The trigger mech looks like a perfect match for this gun.
I REALLY like the extra room inside the trigger guard for the trigger finger and the ANGLE of the grip tang.
Looking great Tin Man

WOW, very nice fish and nice story.
Nice shooting.
What gun where you using greekdiver?

Thanks for the knowledgable intel fuzz

sdeisen---nice report.:)
Glad you guys were able to get out. It looks a little rough out there right now.
I'm interested in how scott likes his new gun set-up. Maybe he will post later
Thanks

Great idea Tin Man, thanks for sharing
That SS trigger mech looks perfect for your new gun. Back in the day, professional bicycle riders used to say "steel is real"

Just FYI an not to derail, but I went here: http://www.imersion.us/
and saw a lot of what was to me new ideas, like adjustable angle gun handles [would make shipping a gun much easier also to just unscrew the pivot screw an remove the whole grip], inside barrel floatation foam,adjustable triggers, titanium spears, etc

X2 what LunkerBuster said
Is that a knife strapped on his right forearm? I'd had that sucker out of the sheath :@
"No fish is worth dieing for"
Glad your friend is ok

No problem bro.
I can spend my recovery time in the water learning the camera.
It will give me more time to recuperate WITHOUT the abdominal strain of loading bands.

Yep. Tomorrow I'm gonna break out my FX37 UW camera, gun mount and instruction book
And hopefully I'll finally be able to contribute some nice pictures and videos.

Thanks Dan.
That looks like my younger brother <img src= " height="23" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x">

Dan--thats what I said, "only your true friends will insult you in public" <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">
I worked a half hour posting all these pictures I was too busy to clean the tub
Did I do the picture sizing correct?