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Alan, I never had that happen with any float line in the water, straight polypropylene or foam core. It does happen to me sometimes on the boat setting up for a dive after having coiled it on the deck and left it there. I can't imagine a point where it could happen other than when you're working a fish and bringing it up hand over hand. In this situation you must keep swimming away from the coils.

I probably handle the float line in a way that is more conducive to getting knots. I spool it after every ascent and let it loose before every descent. Still no tangles. I find the foam core to be stiffer than the straight polypropylene and even less prone to tangles. Take a closer look at what you were doing just before you get tangles.

Lets define "tangles". Do you mean it tends to loop around itself and creates knots or bird's nests that you have to undo?

Why Davie? 120' RA is $55 and 600' wholesale is around $65. I'll go halfs on a roll with you if you like. You can make three lines, sell two on SB and it will cost you nothing.

The same thread on SB has drawn quite a bit of interest. Z1taz aside from always having already done what others are coming up with brings some valid points. Specifically about how long and sharp the spike needs to be and possible accidents. I've written about this in a previous thread, in particular note the story where I got the spike jammed into my arm http://spearfishing.world/spea…-spike-for-spearguns.html

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I shot a cuda a while back that made some good escape runs. The difference was that I was in shallow water messing around without a float and line. When I have a float I usually let go of the gun and play the cuda from a distance until I know it is spent. I couldn't do this yesterday and consequently was rather quick in trying to handle it before it was spent. I did this by grabbing the mono to bring the fish closer to me. That's when the fish made another run and the mono slipped through my hand. As it was going through my fingers I had a mental image of the speargun getting closer and then "the spike" but it was too late. I got spiked in the left arm. I must've tightened up on the mono instinctively because I stopped the cuda's run, I don't think it was my skin that stopped it as the spike didn't perforate it completely. I imagine it could have been much worse had it been a stronger fish and had it got me in the head. In the future I may put a cap on the spike and keep it there until the moment I need to use it.

BTW to make the shaft removable a screw coming in directly from the back combined with threading at the blunt end of the shaft may do the trick.

We follow the same search pattern the industry name for it is polyfoam floatline. And I was wondering why scubas world switched from selling the orange RA line to this one <img src= " height="23" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x">

Nice find! Thank you very much for sharing it. Looks like a nylon sheath with a foam core? If so you basically found the Rob Allen foam core float line. 120' of it sell for $55. I use the normal polypropylene line but I also always bring along the foam core line for situations where more comfortable handling of the float line is required; like assisting a diver up. Being thicker it's much easier on the hands but it doesn't spool as compact as the polypropylene.

RA foam core float line.

Looks very nice and clean. Could be a little shorter to decrease the leverage on the attachment point but that should be easy to correct if desired. I'm curious as to which gun it's on and what were the installation details. I'm glad you enjoyed the design and fabrication process, on to the next challenge

I did a google search on the words competitiveness and spearfishing because I was curious if google already cached the thread. It did and I stumbled on this one as well. It presents the other side of the story and I thought it would be interesting to throw it in here for contrast. The author appears to have had the same start as me so I'm considering what he's saying here http://www.bluewaterhunter.com…ducation_competition.html

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Competitive Spearfishing and Freediving

Being in a competition and being competitive can be looked at in a negative light. Most of us came into Freediving and Spearfishing because of the fun and food collecting aspect so we don't want to take something we do for the passion and make it a "job." Or are there valuable lessons that a diver can learn by participating in a competition that may help him/her in everyday Freediving and Spearfishing?

The purpose of this article is NOT to try and convince you or anyone that competing in Freediving and Spearfishing is good and you need to try it. No. My goal is to express, through personal experience, my thoughts about competing so those that have heard of or thought about competing, but had reservations about it, may decide to compete, or not, based on fact more than fiction.

Growing up, I didn't know Freediving and Spearfishing was or could be competitive, my friends and I would go out and catch some fish, Lobster, Scallops and Abalone and grind until you ate so much food you almost "tossed your cookies." Only when I moved here, to Hawaii, did I learn about and understand a competitive side to Freediving and Spearfishing. Learning about competitions, when I have always done the sport for fun, I was turned off from competitions for a long time. Although, the concept was intriguing and I wanted to learn more without having to actually compete.

I used my video camera as a tool to gain me the knowledge by offering to video the competitors while they are in various tournaments. I have to admit I learned more by simply watching different competitors than by viewing the videotape latter, but again it was the video camera which gave me the opportunity in the first place, so it wasn't totally useless. The video didn't work out very well because I didn't want to piss off any competitors by scaring their fish away trying to get "the good shot" so I kept a pretty good distance.

My thoughts of competition changed but only after several years of careful consideration and many "changes" in how these tournaments were run. Not too many years ago a Spearfishing competition required each diver to catch a limit of twenty (20) fish of various species. There was size limits imposed, along with other guidelines, but the thought of each diver spearing twenty (20) fish left me with a bitter taste in my mouth considering there could be between forty (40) to one hundred (100) divers in one small area!!! That's as much as two thousand (2,000) fish in one day from one area!!! At the same time I remember seeing pictures on the cover of some Spearfishing magazines where a proud diver displayed his "winning catch" of dozens of fish and most of the fish were relatively small. Later I learned of the "point system" and figured out why.

These days, for example the YMCA Sonny T. Invitational Spearfishing Tournament, you'll note a three (3) fish maximum (instead of the twenty (20) mentioned earlier) limit as well as the usual minimum size limits etc. which turns out to be even more competitive due to a decrease in "opportunity." Boy has times changed. Better competition and less impact on the environment. That's a step in the right direction.

But what can you and I gain from competing? Well, there are several important lessons within the actual competition and surrounding the event(s) i.e. like what it takes to organize and hold a tournament. Most commonly a diver will ask: "Why make something I do for fun and make it serious and competitive?"
Tell me that you wouldn't like to be in better "shape" or have better conditioning— I know we all would, but I also know myself. Are you like me? You see, I know I need a "reason" to get in shape so I feel like I have a goal to reach. Without a "purpose" I have a difficult time getting motivated to better myself. Diving will always be fun even if I never leave the surface but wouldn't it be nice to have a three-minute bottom time? You don't think you can? Would you buy a three-minute bottom time if you could? Well you can't, so you'll just have to work at it like everyone else does. But I'll guarantee you you'll know when you got it.

Along with conditioning naturally comes a great increase in knowledge of yourself, your surroundings, fish habits and habitats, and the gear you use. Personally, I feel the knowledge you will gain about yourself and how to stay calm in stressful situations is priceless, because it doesn't only pertain to diving. How many people do you know, maybe including yourself, who are stressed out all the time and will snap at the slightest thing that goes wrong in their lives? And how nice would it be if everyone could take some time out and immerse themselves in the underwater world us divers are drawn to and learn that life isn't all about expensive cars and picture phones— On a further note of advancement in self-discipline, have you ever missed a shot on a fish because you were too excited? Don't worry, we all have.

One of the largest factors about competing that has helped me personally, is how to think during a situation where "normally" I would lose all motor skills—like when I came across the Ahi (see Dive Journal - July 28,2003). I saved my excitement for after I pulled the trigger, not before, which is a very fine line with and a very different outcome. I can honestly say that the few competitions I have done contributed greatly to staying calm during the event with the Ahi.

A common feeling among "competitors" is the natural feeling of being "afraid" or "scared" of the other competitors. However, to put this thought into reality a person must realize this is not a boxing match whereby if you "loose" the result, more than likely, is you have ten black eyes and fifteen swollen lips. This is Spearfishing and your not going to get beat-up by your competition so whybe "afraid" or "scared?" After a Spearfishing competition the "losers" get first crack at the beer while the "winners" are busy signing autographs. Now that I mention it, I think I'd rather lose—Just kidding!

A phenomenon among divers is the fact that many are willing to participate in "small home town" kind of competition but they won't compete on a "larger" scale i.e. State, Nationals or Worlds—perhaps not realizing it's the same thing with a different title and with the same end results— some people spear more fish than the other people. That's it!

Like many sports, almost all of the discouraging factors are mental obstacles, not physical. Many people have found, during a competition, that by thinking "it's just another day to shoot fish to take home and grind" they stay calmer and more focused on the goal of spearing fish—not who's going to win or lose.

It's well known among "experienced" competitors that the divers that have more fun do better than those that take it too serious. So am I saying to go out there and screw around—YES! And those of you that think you're "not good enough—" another common consensus among veteran competitors is that Spearfishing competitions are largely based on luck. But as the saying goes, "the harder you work, the luckier you get." Remember, it's just another great excuse to take the day off, go diving, talk story and learn more about diving and yourself. But be careful, you might even have fun.

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For this reason I'm always at a loss for the correct word. I can't bring myself to say sport when talking about spearfishing and activity/past time doesn't cut it. Frankly I don't feel "spearfishing" describes it very well either as originally spearfishing does not necessarily require diving. I find the Spanish pesca submarina much more appropriate and am completely comfortable with it. For those who don't know Spanish it translates literally underwater fishing but it rolls off the tongue easier. Sometimes caza submarina (underwater hunting) is used which brings another element to it. The word fishing has too strongly the image of hook and line attached to it.

Here's a GIF I made of traditional spearfishing that at one point thought of using as an avatar.

I'm not sure what I would do to counter it once it's on but to avoid it all I'd have to do is be offensive. In other words not rest on his back and go for something, neck or pull him forward as he's got no base, as soon as I feel him going for my arm.

I don't know. As I rolled out of it we changed a few positions rapidly. Throughout that three times the lock went on and I was ready to give up but didn't have a chance as we were moving. I don't know how much he committed to the lock but if it was done any harder I would be injured. It started out as a straight arm lock but may have changed into a kimura. My shoulder is hurting today.

Some serious arm breaks.

MMA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnFTTyaIVCQ&feature=related

Grappling. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnyLqIDsS5E&feature=related

Wrestling. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acxZjhxi7ac&feature=related

BJJ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkh5H02Iw2M&feature=related

MMA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Rx-JgjBGs&feature=related

Grappling. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR1AmIsejDM&feature=related

I try to figure out why people get so hung up on categorizing spearfishing as a sport. Pantoja has an unusual (for the US) skill. He can climb easily up those slick palm trees and shake off a few coconuts which he enjoys eating. I'm not so hot on coconuts but I realize that in a pinch it's a good source of nourishment. I don't look at spearfishing any different. It's just a way of getting food while exercising your mental and physical capacities at the same time which is fun. To further put it into perspective; is lobstering a sport? OK it still involves diving. How about gathering shell fish in knee deep water, is that a sport? Yes or no, where do you draw the line? Sure coconut tree climbing can be a sport too.

So I guess it's how you approach it. If someone feels sexy putting on the latest wetsuit on the market and strapping on a brand name knife and takes pride in his spearfishing specific $100 float line to engage in an activity that they practice sporadically and to top it off use it as a status symbol then I can see that perceiving it as a sport is not a far stretch. I prefer it as simple as I can make it and this is reflected in my gear. Looking at this way I just realized that there are many more people that spearfish who would consider it a sport so I guess I'm in the minority. Having watched some videos of Hawaii spearfishing I believe that over there they're closer to the subsistence mentality.

Toledo said that I embraced the soul of the sport. Actually I'm just trying to get back to the way I used to do it when I started.

Well that was why I didn't expect it either. I did have at least one arm around his chest and that's the one he trapped. But what happens is that once the lock is on he has his weight on my arm and it's threatened badly. I have to go with the pressure and roll, I lose the position and he ends up on top. It's a great move if it worked on me because I have good balance and outweighed the guy by 40lb.

Thanks. Pantoja is almost ready to hit the water again so you'll be seeing plenty of good catches. BTW since the afternoon we had some torrential rain here. The streets have over a foot of water in some places.

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Dan, the guy was on all fours, and you were N/S on top(like spin drills?) and he grabbed your elbow with one hand and wrist with other?

Like that except the guy on the bottom grabs an arm over the elbow on either side by pinning it in the nook of his bicep. Then he can sit out in either direction. One way will roll you, the other way will put you in an arm bar. Instead of doing this he grabbed my wrist with the other arm and locked it from the bottom. If I'm ready for it I don't think it'd be so hard to counter as he has no base with his arms at that point. I'll play with it next time.

Thanks, nice find. It's a different angle which is good. The image is large originally but is reduced on that page. I can link it to my page in full size. Alternatively right click on the image and select view image to see the larger size but it doesn't update that way unless you refresh the page.

It wasn't updating this morning but it's working fine now. Please post the link for the other cam.

We didn't go today. In the morning it was overcast and we figured the vis was going to be crappy. The forecast also called for rain. It drizzled in Ft Lauderdale I don't know how it was in Miami.

Your post reminds me of what a good spearfisher I knew in Cuba said to me once about this sort of thing "The fish that is yours no one else will take it.". I guess it's a way of taking the pressure off yourself. I don't know to what extent I believe in that as I've definitely seen guys shoot a fish from under me, but then maybe the fish wasn't really mine in the first place

Nowadays I don't mind if I'm not the first one in the water even on a small spot. The only exception is if I'm with new guys and I think they'll shoot something silly and disturb the other fish. If I'm with experienced guys I don't mind at all. I know that chances are the commotion will attract some other fish and if it's a pelagic they know to leave it there for a little bit to increase the effect.

If the area is larger I normally don't mind someone getting ahead of me. I figure if they're so keen on doing so then they will shoot the first fish but then I'm under no obligation to spot them as they're handling the fish and move ahead significantly by the time they brought it under control and put it on the stringer so I get the next one.