how much of the gun's accuracy is down to the shaft like the flopper , geometry of the tip..
A lot! I made a shaft take a pronounced curved trajectory starting at 10 - 12ft by bending up the tip of the flopper, I thought at the time it would improve the deployment of the flopper. I couldn't believe how that shaft moved, I could've shot fish from around a corner, but couldn't hit anything straight on past 10ft.
Interesting read.
To me the advantages of an enclosed track vs. a deep track is that the shaft doesn't fall out of the gun without the shooting line being wrapped, and the line guide is eliminated making routing the shooting line more streamlined. For these two factors alone I prefer an enclosed track speargun. I see no disadvantages to it except not being able to use notched shafts, but I prefer tabbed shafts anyways. And the risk of shooting into a hole and the shaft not clearing the track. But to protect the track in this situation I add stainless steel plates at the end of the track. So to me there are no disadvantages to an enclosed track speargun, it's not any more difficult to cut an enclosed track than a deep track.
I'm surprised at what Don said, that an enclosed track negatively affects energy transfer to the spear. I don't know how an enclosed track could cause this.. increased friction? But in this case an enclosed track can be powered a little more than an open track gun, overcoming any energy loss due to friction.
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You are being too subtle Dan - tell us what you really think of Pathos <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">
Alright since you asked.. stupid ****ing handle.
When a company has the resources to design and manufacture a handle from scratch, making it exactly to their idea of what a perfect handle should be, it boggles my mind that they'd end up with a grip like the laser. It demonstrate a complete disregard for comfort in loading, which in turn reflects on the individual's running the company actual experience/time spent in the water hunting. Subsequent improvements in my mind will never make up for such a blatant blunder, I will always question the suitability for the task of products from this company. More so because of my experience with the Pathos foot pockets. It's not unusual however for European spearfishing gear manufacturers, to opt for product designs that look fancy and different, but lack basic functionality.
By contrast I can assure you that Speardiver's first speargun handle will be every bit functional as it is pretty. It will reflect everything I know about what a good speargun should be. If it would have any serious flaw like the Pathos Laser, I might as well be in another line of work.
All that and still they never really said what was wrong with the sauce.
Is it really that good?
Impressive fish. But to take its life knowing that it will go to waste is unethical IMO. I did the same once and regret it to this day.
Well it's a bit of a fish push, you can see in the cooler the dog is smaller than the grouper. But still a stud snapper, if I had to guess I'd say 13lb. Hank you never fail, always nice fish every outing. Do you guys ever weight your fish?
Who shot the cuda in the face?!
1:15 bottom time, I get the feeling the conditions were not easy. What was going on with the rope in the beginning?
Thanks for the review Steven. I'm very happy with this flag as well. A couple of more points to mention.. it's available in two sizes, for float and boat, both being Florida legal at 12.5" x 11" and 24" x 20" respectively. The one Steven has is the boat / kayak size.
The flag can be tied to a pole using the stainless steel grommets, or a flag pole can be inserted into the built in pocket. I made the pocket just large enough to be able to use the cheapest and most readily available water/weather resistant flag pole available, a 1/2" PVC pipe.
Wow very nice hog, and the mackerel not too shabby also.
The Rob Allen 11L float has very little buoyancy, 21 lb.
Rob Allen 11L float buoyancy test - YouTube
Taken to depth it will crush eventually. This one reportedly crushed at 50 - 60m Spearfishing Bliss | Coatesman's Spearfishing & Waterman's Blog
Pulling from the handle would make the board more streamlined underwater and negate the drag advantage.
If I were to do it I'd make a dedicated foam board, with a bungee and cleats to grab the line as I pull the fish in. Like the one Don posted in the other thread.
I fixed it for you. This is the url you should've copied and pasted, then the forum will embed the video automatically
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz6PbA_-6voCompare it to what you've been using before. Note there is no s in http://
I wasn't talking about the loading butt being a pain, rather the grip, it's quite pointy in the back.
The pin line release is easy to get used to, and is very reliable. I wrap it fine with the right hand, turning the gun with the left. The pin can also be moved to the other side on the D'Angerlo handle with a little modification. I've done it before for a Left handed shooter. I'm not sure but it looks in one of your pics like the Laser already has a slot on the right side too.
But a side line release on the right of the handle will always feel like home. Too bad it's not as simple a system as the pin line release.
If the rubber piece does the job please post a pic of it.
Eddie's probably talking about this one Meandros Power Trigger Mechanism W/ Loading Butt. Not sure why a Meandros mechanism would be necessary, the Laser trigger mechanism already has a stainless steel casing. In this aspect it's nicer than the older D'Angelo handle. But I handled the Pathos Laser and this handle is painful to load, it really digs into your abdomen. I wouldn't want to use it in conditions where I'd reload often. I'm sure it shoots fine.
Thanks for the videos.
That's some very good advice. Thanks Xan.
Welcome Mark.