Posts by oto

great topic :thumbsup2:

Mullins says he thinks the ratio is 1.1:1 (horiz vs vertical), so in theory, if you can do a 100m dynamic, so you should be able to do a 45m dive HOWEVER there are lots of factor to consider

compensation:#1 limiting factor, such as being able to only dive to 32m because it is very difficult for me to compensate after that depth and my compensation technique is not very efficient.

finning effort: in a dyn swim, you have to keep a constant workload/speed to gain max benefits, but the force required to move this way is not close to what is needed to break the surface or come back from a deep negative position. there is the sink benefit and the the "float up" benefit at begin and end of dives.

If I could dive the same way in the same ratio as I swim, there is no doubt in mind I could reach 50m. Not that it is really a goal of mine. I train not for depth, but for bottom time.

the pros are doing 200m swims and 100m dives, sounds like the ratio works for them.

Quote from pargo

I thought this was well on the way to becoming the quarterly :cherna: repressed feelings purge thread..

So now then Oto, which footpockets do you think have the necessary non stiffness that you so much desire?

And why don't you just trust me, come on over jump in the pool and try a pair footpockets with average stiffness tendons and a soft carbon blade? No strings attached

ok, I trust you, I'll call you to set it up. I'll bring a pair of my OMER pockets to compare, I still have on epair left.

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That's the whole point, Oto likey the stiff...:0

I guess you're never going to forgive me for cheating on you.

Frank, just f'ing with you bro!

like dan said, the fin would be softer since more of the blade would flex more freely. but these add too much stiffness to the blades, so I'm getting some softer pockets.

I'm getting old, and with skinny legs, I don't likey the stiffy anymore, contrary to popular belief :nono:

the knife is sold, I had posted it on SB. pretty cool knife but I have 2 others and this one is just not getting used. sounds like Frank has one, not that he was cockblocking or anything like that :laughing3:

the foot pockets, first I cut off the very tip of the pockets (that weak part that's not very hard) because it annoyed me and also carbontek recommended it for their blades.

then I have the complaint about these new OMER pockets having too stiff tendons, so i cut off another inch or so to see if I felt the diff and really didn't. I figure I'd sell them cheap and not cut them again, otherwise noone will want them.

neck wt is very handy to keep a horizontal posture and not have to fight buoyancy, for me 2lbs on neck, 2 lbs on waist keeps me balanced about 3-4' under, makes the swim more relaxed

on the swim/hold/swim, my max is 3:10, which means I swim 25m (30secs), hold for about 2 mins, swim back 25m, total of 3 mins

I think the wall around 100m is mental, however, it does take almost 2 mins to swim 100m, that's constant workload, as opposed to above where 1min is working, 2 mins is static. It will take about 2:45 constant work load to reach 150m

I posted about this a while ago and want to share some of my training I've started doing again. I did this last year and my diving really improved. The fact is after I started a new job late last year and with the kids growing up, I kind of stopped training and diving for a while. You must have a buddy though!

I think it's helpful, especially when diving frequency is low. I've never found anything more helpful for diving (other than the diving itself) than dynamic pool training. Tables never did anything for me, however, pool training improved my diving 50%. Examples last year when I was training and diving often, dive times went from 1:10-1:15 avg to 1:45, with many dives between 2-2:30, comfortably diving 80'+

Here is the workout routine, based on some recommended exercises by Pelizzari, and info from Deeperblue members (Mullins)

Start up by relaxing in the water for 3-5 minutes.

try a long swim (not a max), for me now this is between 75-100m

recover 2 mins, do a 75m x2

Recover 2-3 mins, do a 25m, hold (x secs), 25m back x3 or 4 times

this one will really help your reflex kick in strongly. you can hold as long as you can, start with 15-20 secs, work from there. It takes about 30 secs to slowly swim 25m, so your total swim times will be from 1:20 or so up. My PB in this is now 3:10, hoping to hit 4 mins

After you these holds, try a max swim. My PB is approx 110m, I really freak out after the 100m touch, I think it's mental. It takes about 1:50 to do 100m. My partner and I have a goal of 150m by the end of the year

then try some 50m or 75m swims with shorter recovery, say 1-1:30 mins x6-8 times

then do some 25 or 50m sprints with 1 min recovery x6 -8 times

that's it!

be safe

too bad the pockets aren't my size or I'd take them, I think it's a great deal just for the pockets alone!

not a pussy magnet for sure! I do use to keep track of surf intervals when diving fairly deep, when diving shallow, I usually don't paay attention to the watch.

I also like to keep an eye on dive times to see how I'm diving, I used to keep track of all that stuff and download the graphs to the PC, it's kind of cool to look at the dive profiles, maybe I'll start doing that again and piss some people off on SB

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Mine also keeps track of the fish I shoot

diving kinda shallow there? nice watch! :laughing3:

interesting Dan, the blue pattern looks good.

what about cost? is carbon/kevlar more expensive than just carbon?

that was pretty pathetic :0

very nice!

I used to wear lots of lead when I started diving, ever since I had my BO, I started dropping weight off my belt.
Last time out I was wearing 5lbs with a 1mm top diving in 30-40', and it was fine since it was so shallow, but then we moved to 55-65 stuff and all of a sudden coming back up was a lot of work, so I dropped 1lb and was neutral around 25', positive from 20' up. which was a good compromise for performance.

For me it's important to have a balance dive, if I'm too bouyant and I have to kick all the way to the bottom I don't do as well, not just bottom time wise but hunting too. In 60-70, I prefer to be neutral around 25-30, and sink slowly from 40 down, not moving at all until I hit the bottom. I've found out that muttons like this approach and they come say hi to me

I seldom look for fish when I'm heading down, unless I saw something prior to the dive, and I always go to the bottom on every dive, then look for fish. some people like the approach of hovering 20-30' above the bottom to look for a target, I like the approach of touching bottom on every dive, it's more efficient for me.

I have,

-RA 110 aluminum, my true starter gun, good for anything from a grunt to a big grouper (not that I've shot many:D), I'm putting a reel on it so it will be only for shallow diving going forward. I love this gun!
rigged with 2 5/8s and 7mm shaft, one wrap and reel.

-rabi apex 120 carbon with their new handle. just started shooting this gun, it will be mostly for 60' plus diving with a floatline. I'm very pleased with it so far, very smooth and quiet shooting, no recoil, light and manueverable. 2 5/8s, 7mm shaft, one wrap

-RA 100 barrel with picasso century handle and trigger, with UK LED light attached to front, this is my low vis, cave gun. rigged with 1 3/4 band, 7.5mm shaft, one wrap

Quote from Mariner

Asesino, That's the one thing I hate about my RA. No butt. Where did you buy it from?Have you had a chance to try it out? I want one!!

really? I actually prefer the RA with no butt, the handle is softer and easy to load. I'd rather load my RA with no butt than my rabitech with a similar plastic butt. I've actually dove with no wetsuit or rash guard a couple of weeks ago and was able to load the RA without much discomfort. didnt try the rabi, it would have put a hole in my chest!

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good point monster. i dont know how that guy in that video doesnt blackout. he kicks like he is running from a shark.

guys, I'm thinking 2 reasons: 1-) he is wearing very little weight so he'd have to kick to at least 60-70'. 2-) he may have been diving with a strong current and in order to drop on the same spot, he'd have to kick constantly to correct his drop

Quote from pargo

Yep. The Riffe competitor 2 was my 2nd gun ever and I used it for a few years until I got a C3. After that I started making my own guns. I do have some nice memories of that old C2. I remember thinking when I first got it that the more power the better so I put three 5/8 bands on it. The recoil hurt my hand every time, with every shot I'd close my eyes involuntarily and then open them to see if I hit the fish LOL Hitting a fish was a mystical affair that was not due to any aiming effort on my part. In retrospect I'm surprised I hit the fish I did. And I always had that big double flopper point on it..

that's funny, I used to do the same thing when I got started, using a hawaiian with 3 bands, the thing almost split my lip open once. you have to use both hands to shoot those midhandles

well it's been a while since I've been out, my dad's friend got a house in the keys for mini season so I "convinced" my dad to go say hi and give him a hand scouting some grounds for a day. drove up Friday night and he said he was tired so we'd sleep in a little bit and get going :thumbsup2: sure no problem, well, we ended up heading out at 1pm! :angry5:

what are you going to do...we went to a 30' area he wanted to scout with his brownie :crazy:..finally got there, anchored up, I worked as far from the noise as I could, just took my gun and stringer, no float or line. the spot had a 10' ledge in 30', not bad at all. shot up some mangos from 12" to 20", got a legal red, some other misc fish and a nice permit at the end of the day, saw a big black but he was booking it by the time I realized he was there

went for a little night diving in the canal behind the house, saw a ton of juvi lobsters crawling around and some grunts

and some of the catch

I used to get it when I wouldn't wear a hood during the summer, now I wear a lycra hood, problem solved and get some sun/jelly fish protection too

rolo es un cagon! I personally like to take a nice shit in an actual toilet before I begin a day of diving :thumbsup2:

John, you've always had great advice to offer, good to see you in here. when I got started 3 years ago, I used your breathup technique writeup from SB, still have it, still use it!

Thanks!

Quote from Spearo_fla

1. Give yourself enough time on the surface to recover
2. Floatlines are safer then reels, for noobs.
3. If you don't see fish and it's not a good area, cut the dive short.
4. A dive flag is never big enough
5. Always dive with a partner
6. Never put a loaded gun on a boat
7. Never stick your hand in a lobster hole where the lobster has only 1 antenna sticking out.
8. Always assist the captain in every way!
9. Never dive with your snorkel in your mouth
10. Always under weight yourself.

Gee I could go on and on....

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