Posts by Aaron Proffitt

    PETA? I'm interested in your opinion here.
    I think your example is on one end of the spectrum, kill for the kill, and PETA is on the other "they operate under the simple principle that animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment.". What we have said is somewhere in the middle. No?


    (SIGH)
    Most of us kill for the sake of the kill . We may not talk about it or even acknowledge it but it is what it is. For anyone of us to say we only hunt for the procurement of food in this day in age is pretty dillusional . Their are a whole lot of way more efficiennt ways to secure protein than hunting. At least for now anyway.
    So...where does that leave the the 14 foot tiger shark ? Obviously, we can assume it was legally taken....even if by a tool. So why are we judging ? This is where PETA comes in. I don't nec. like all methods employed in consumptive pursuits, but if they're legal; then we'd be best served to defend it in public and debate it in private. PETA loves to use the divide and conquer approach . Why CA. no longer has a lion or bear season , and deer and elk numbers have plummeted . Never mind the increase in human interactions with both .


    All because fellow outdoorsman were either apathetic to defense of hunting them or outright supported the ban.


    Again,slippery slope.

    And thus ensues the debate over ethics and morality of the take ..... the philosophy of why we even bother.


    The answers will never be cut and dry. It just is.



    I'd shoot one, or catch one. Whether I eat it or not is on me. I've taken two animals that initially I had no intention of eating . One was a dead salmon fed glacier phase black bear ....the meat on these is horrid. Another was a mt. lion ... only upon skinning did I learn we were in fact going to eat it. Even after I had already tried some and found it pretty good. Thought it was an oddity ,of a large cat as table fare. Now, I can't even see one at the zoo without hearing in mind the grill fire up.



    No point ... I just don't like the the "if it's not eaten, then it was a waste" mentality. I feel that borders on PETA speak.



    Slippery slope ,fellas.

    For good cuts of meat, salt is usually all you need. I have some Nicaraguan friends to rub mustard over the entire piece of steak.


    I have a duck/goose recipe that calls for dumping an entire jar of mustard into a mixing bowl and then begin adding ground red pepper until it turns bright orange . Once done,drag your breast filets thru it ,wipe off excess then place them into a gallon baggy that has your favorite corn based fish fry mix in it. Once coated, deep fry.



    Good shit ...


    Dan, chipolte is one of my favs as well as any jalepeno based seasoning.




    Used to carry a shaker of Cajun seasoning in my ruck sack when I was on active duty. Worked magic on MRE's.

    Just for gee-whiz , the only sighthound with any kind of protection drive appears to be the azawakh...hails from sub-Saharan Africa.


    From what I can gather, they would certainly present a challenge as they do posses a protection instinct, and yet have a hounds typical independent mind.

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    Does gaze hound = sight hound? From your description and my past experience these dogs remind me of fighting dogs. They look to me like they'd behave as dead dogs up until the moment they start to do their thing which is to chase no? Truly a single purpose dog. How many dogs have you got at your place now Aaron? Do you have kennels? How many and which of your dogs are house dogs?


    4 currently reside in the house,Dan, and all 4 live in the house. As a general rule I find I get more biddable dogs that are easier to work with when they are inducted into the household. I have kennels ,but the guy who built them did a horrible job , so all of the construction has been ripped up until I rebuild them.


    They really are a single purpose dog . They live for the chase and the kill.


    gaze hound= sight hound
    longdog= a dog of mixed breed anscestry, but all sight hound
    lurcher=sight hound x'd with anything else... usually a terrier or scent hound

    Many times I wondered what is the correct motivation for creative writing. I can't come to a conclusion about it. Are you writing for your audience or are you writing to get it out of you..


    Perhaps both ...?(


    Suppose a work of fiction would be easier as it's a bit of a crapshoot as to who your audience may be.


    "Look at Angela's Ashes " for example. A psuedo work of fiction that was picked by many. Even Oprah.

    Now that Tut and Arliss have been here for a little over two weeks figure I can somewhat report on 'em .



    Gazehounds are a bit of a pariah in the hunting dog world. They are as affectionate as they are aloof. They wanna please, when they want to. I have yet to hear either bark. They have little to no protection instinct. They are the only dog I have ever been around from the hound group that show some seperation anxiety .


    I have co-owned some for awhile...but it was more like a time share . They lived at the other parties kennel...we shared expenses, and I could hunt 'em anytime I wanted.


    Tut and Arliss are the first two to actually be brought into the home, and that was at my wife's bidding due to her fascination with fast dogs. They are extrememly affectionate, but not needy so like a Lab or some Spaniels. They are inherently lazy, spending alot of time just sleeping or at the very least resting and watching the world go by.
    As a pure pet...I believe they would be ideal as they are very easy to share space with and are prone to few,if any, health concerns. The only one is they are prone to having twisted stomachs. This is easily remedied by feeding small portions when they are going to be lounging. I generally feed them in their crates. No food if they are getting ready to go outside.


    All in all...a fun breed to have around. BTW.... women freakin' love 'em. Walk 'em thru the park and they flock. Damned if that would've been good info about 6 years ago.




    To be honest I was going to use a term my Dad used to use that described a shotgun that handled well.


    "Whirlable" .....

    Aaron that´s one heck of a pic of Arliss dude !! 8)


    Good eye but neither Arliss nor Tut....


    That's 'Boomer' .... 'Boomer' is a dog I co-own . The rip-rap runner (black/white) is another I co-own, 'Squeak' because of his weird bark.



    Here are my two that I own outright and reside here at casa de Proffitt.


    ;) Arliss is the long haired gent . Tut has the two-tone short coat.

    You definitely have a book in you based on that sentence alone :) I just think you'll run out of steam with this subject because it is best felt and experienced rather than talked about. Hemingway wrote something to this effect. You being a hunter will lose focus writing about this subject because you'd be catering to those who don't know.


    And that is the very thing that I've thought about, Dan . The only people who would read it are those who already relate.


    Hemingway captured it well . A Spanish writer/philosopher by the surname Gasset wrote "Mediations on Hunting " also did a fine job of answering the 'why'. Great read .


    I am afraid none of those who are fence sitters when it comes to comnsumptive outdoors pursuit would give it a second look. And that's who ought to be researching for themselves.


    The people who laude the Sea Kittens are a lost cause.

    mmmm sounds really good,


    I bet the red currant would go well on vennison too


    I bet it would... mint jelly( reduced) with venison as a sorta dipping sauce is great, as well. In hindsight, I wish I would've had this recipe before I finished off the last of our bear. Holy crap that would've been good.


    As an aside, for years I have searched for something that would keep snipe and woodcock from tasting like complete and utter shit. Tried everything from the trussed exotic French recipes to some of the blander Brit methods. Tried adding a bourbon based sauce, which usually tempers strong meats, to getting sauced on bourbon and then eating them . Tried Okie favs of mesquite coals and BBQ sauce . No avail.


    I was getting frustrated as these are two of my favorite birds to gun . Challenging targets and the quinessential gentleman's bird. But if I can't eat 'em.... kinda kills the satisfaction of the take.


    However, the addition of the above recipe made them not only palatable but married well with the bizarre flavor these birds impart. They still tasted like snipe and woodcock.... but the sauce gave it just the right twist needed. Kinda like how vodka is largely tasteless until you add appetizers of smoked meats and cheeses into the mix. Then the vodka seems to become sweet and fruit like ...

    Aaron, I believe there's a book in you.


    Thanks...


    I've been playing with the idea as of late. Suppose it'd be based on the factors, both pre-determined and learned behaviors , that shape us into being hunters. Why it's not a hobby or a past time ,but a need .


    The idea came about one winter morning when I awoke early to the sound of our cats meowing plantively . They needed something was the sound they were making. Similar to the call they make when in their carriers and on the way to the vet. I opened my eyes and noticed both crouched on the window sill, heads erect and tails swishing ....watching the snow birds that frequent the shrub right outside my window . I thought to myself " Here are two well-fed, well-cared for cats who, right now, want through that window so bad it's driving them insane." The only answer was .... because they had to .


    After that observation ,I began paying more attention to other animals, in particular my dogs. I recalled the numerous times I returned home to find Fisher and Tenille sitting on their haunches staring up into our backyard oak waiting for the squirrel they knew was up there. Or the times they'd catch and kill one just for the satisfaction of it, as I have never seen them eat one.


    Hell, two nights ago, I released Arliss and Tut into the backyard before I left for work . Probably around 10 o' clock or so. No sooner did I let them out into the backyard when both locked eyes onto the far back corner of my yard, behind the kennel pad and barn ..... ZOOOOM .... they were gone. I went and grabbed my flashlight and walked back there, just knowing they had engaged something . As I walked toward them , they came trotting up with that self-assured , smug look that only an excited dog can do. "You will love this ,Boss ", is what the look seems to say. Sure enough . Right behind my shop was a very dead, very large boar coon. Obviously, they killed it in very short order as I never heard a ruckus in the least. No barks,no growls, yips of pain....nothing. Upon showing it to me they trotted right back to the back door to be let back in to relax in their kennels. Chase and kill were over . Time to rest until next time.


    Point is, dogs and cats have been domesticated for probably 4,000-5,000 years. Man kind has only ceased being a hunter/ gatherer/subsistence farmer in the past 100-200 years or so.Hell, a hundred years ago it would have been unwise for a white man to ride through where my house now sits. And yet, their are some who believe we should be able to just turn off our prey drive like it never existed .


    I believe that would be akin to having a cat that is content to just watch a mouse scurry across the floor without so much as giving it a sideways glance . And their are some ,I hear, that will do just that . But they are damn few.Certainly not our fat Persian and Calico.


    So that is the basic premise I am going to start on. I intend use my own experiences, those of friends and acquaintences, and historical archives as the basis.


    It's something born into us. I'm sure all of us can relate to nights spent sleepless with anticipation of the following days hunt. It's just there, deep in us.


    I also intend to explore it as a right of passage ritual. Rituals that are noticeably absent in our society in this day in age. Look at our rates of youth violence and other crime.
    To equate this to the animal world ... several years ago their was a curious case of young,very dangerous bull elephants in , I wanna say, South Africa in a National Park. These bands of young marauders were becoming incredibly dangerous to the point that the Park quit giving tours. Even further , the population of white rhinos begin to drastically drop as the bulls began to target the rhinos. It was then that someone clued into the fact that all of these bulls had been orphaned during culling operations in other near-by parks.
    They were then transplanted to other parks where they were essentially raised without any kind of guidance. So the Park brought in several large ,mature Bulls to take over the bachelor groups of teens .Bulls showed, made them earn their place and showed them the ropes.Problem solved.


    I believe the two are inter-connected... rites of passage and acceptance into adult society as a peer after a sort of apprenticeship cycle culminating in one running a successful hunt of their own as well as answering a call in us to immerse into the wild places as a participant. One in the same.

    Well, not really unknown to US society, and would be problematic in your line of work, but a doobie of the indica variety will do the trick...


    Yeah ... probably not for at least another 10 years, bro. After that it's on like Donkey Bong ...



    Think the problem is going to work itself out. All I have to do is maintain for another 6 weeks and then I go back to days . :thumbup: Just put in my bid a little while ago.


    Thinks for all the tips, though.

    There's a book that my wife reads her fifth graders every year that you guys should read. It is right along these lines. As soon as you talked about the hills and the hunting dogs, it reminded me of that book. I'll see if I can text her and get the name of the book.


    "Where the Red Fern Grows " ? Bet it is ....

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    That doesn't look very lethal . Rig it on a hawiian sling maybe.


    All good advice,hau.
    My night shift consists of midnight to 8, with 2-3 4.00P-8.00a a week thrown in for a good measure .