Yep, registration and pedigrees are the coup de grace for dog breeds. It's great that the US has the geography and culture that can lead to the development of great hunting dogs. If I was looking for a hunting dog I wouldn't look outside the US. You just have to know where to go. Which is why it's surprising to me that you're looking at the airdales.
Pssst....my Labs are imported . Why ? Because the Irish know how to put together a Lab. My future Airedales ? From Germany.
What do your buddies say about the airdales? They look like they should know all about them.
They're pretty biased....:D
They wouldn't own any other breed.One guy ( Matt) threatens to send his on dates with his 17 year old daughter.
I know several great dog folks who don't even recognize AKC/UKC for this very reason...
When men were men and dogs were airdales
...and women were REAL women. There's seven freakin' kids in that picture and she's decked out in fur.:D
That's not exactly nature unless you consider the actions of man as an extension of nature. In which case dog fighting would also be part of nature. I believe that there's nothing natural about the capabilities of the pitbull to fight to the death. It is a perversion of a natural drive that has no place in nature. Gameness is however like monster said a genetic treasure. There's dog fighting and there's dog fighting. If all dog fighting leads to the kind of images Stevo posted then I'm against it. I don't think this is always the case though. Just like us with speafishing, some do it ethically and some don't. Some spearos, like me, dispatch their fish as quickly as possible and others let them take their last breaths in the cooler.
Thought we were talking about hunting wild pigs ?
What do you think about the hog attacked, outnumbered by the dogs, then shot, speared or knifed to death?
Their are no dignified deaths in nature. Only death.
the first one is for hunting hogs, as well as the second one the third one is a fighting dog.
They have wild hogs in Cuba ?
I saw the first one and thought of a GSP/ sight-hound cross.
" I never saw either of his parents. The Knight of the Broom I purchased him from said he was a spaniel, that his name was Pincha , and that his father was a ' keen gun dog ' . This is all I can tell you about his pedigree.".
"Robin" in The Man-Eaters of Kumaon by Jim Corbett
A spaniel!! Robbin, a classic!!
Robin !.... there is a whole chapter devoted to 'Robin'.
Display MoreMy favorite dog has always been a pitbull, believe it or not they're great dogs if your an active family.
Now they arent very good guard dogs, because everyone that walked in my house or backyard was always greeted with a lick and invitation to give em a belly rub.
Been thinking about getting one of these dogs, its half American Bulldog, half Catahoula Leopard dog. Hence the name Catahoula Bulldog.
Pretty dogs, good and strong.
You hog hunt, bro ?
Man, you are really touching some ol´ nerves here, my dad used to read me hunting tales, and among my favorites are the Jim Corbett´s Man eaters of Kumaon!!
Weird ! I read a little of it to my daughter every night !Odd choice for a kid's night time book, but it works.
Didn't he own some kind of small terrier that would alert him when tigers or leopards were present ?
Monster, you might also enjoy some of the historic writings about a houndsmen in the American South West known as Ben Lilly.
Yup, nice shot but too much yelling for the killing
Yeah...he had me up until that point. It's one thing for me to rejoice by myself or with a partner. It's another to do it for 65,000. What took place is personal....damn personal for the coyote.
In anycase, you have a standing invite to come North and see what it's all about ...done right. Hell of an adrenaline rush calling one in and having him stalk the sound of the call . Makes me feel like Jim Corbett.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwfpGP8N80M&eurl=http://www.mexicoarmado.com/showthread.php?t=27851
This is one heck of a shot!!
Indeed... however, I 'd like to add a bit of a disclaimer here.
I've hunted and trapped coyotes all my life and they are a worthy game animal. Just like deer, elk, birds, and a multitude of others. I harvest them for their fur, which is why I use either .17 Rem. Fireball or a carefully loaded .223 ( by that I mean a bullet and load combination that is fur friendly ) or for close quarters, a shotgun . I will not use a large caliber centerfire that results in a "pink mist" or coyotes that have softball sized exit holes in them. To do otherwise is wasteful and disrespectful. Furthermore, come March 17th...I'm done for the year even though I could hunt them year 'round. At that time ,coyotes in my area have rubbed coats and are denning up for litters. Time to call it good and await next years crop.
Just good conservation practices.
I appreciate the link,bro, but their attitude makes me a bit uncomfortable. Coyote is a worthy foe.
" The call of the wild" they say, something long lost in their past that tremble in their genes, a lost link when they gave up their nature to became our brothers ...
Well it is an odd phenomenon.
Here's a couple of buddys of mine( Ken and Matt) on a coyote hunting trip with their Airedales . Believe these were taken around Mesa, Az..
Nice use to song dogs skins ...
In spite of that i dunno man, they resemble to much a dog to be in my list of animals to kill. I respect their hunters though.
I know what you mean... been hunting and trapping them so long I see them as another game animal, though.
Interestingly enough, and maybe you guys can chime in here; myself and other hunters have noticed our dogs that are normally pretty laid back around others literally go out of their way to catch and KILL a coyote. Regardless of breed, whether it's spaniels,pointers or retrievers...just something about coyotes that pisses field dogs off and makes them wanna kill 'em. I've had Fisher damn near drag me out of a goose blind intent on catching a coyote while I held onto his collar. Only time we've ever really had control issues is when a coyote enters the mix.
From what animal are those furs, coyotes? What do people do with coyote furs?
Those in the pic are coyote . The man pictured is "Coyote Jack", an early gov. hunter for Oregon.
Coyote is still widely used in the fur trade. Especially in the trim of coats , mostly around the hood and collars. Reason being is that coyote fur is one of the few furs that when it absorbs condensation ,say from breath, it will not freeze. That's why even though in some Arctic and Antarctic expedition pics, alotta times the members will be wearing state of the art parkas and hats; but they will still be trimmed in fur.
Here's another one...
I used to own and read a couple of Stratton books. The dog fighters call a cur anything and everything that won't fight or won't fight long. It's sort of a derogatory name when speaking of a dog. That's why it surprised me when Aaron used it.
Aaron, is that Airdale forum any good?
Seems to be ,Dan . Some pretty decent field info. Here's an old photo of working Airedales from 1915 in Harney County,Ore..
What is the reason for using the name cur to describe the dogs? One that I see there is for sure a catahoula leopard dog.
Dunno... just have always seen it done the way for leopards, mountains, and black-mouths .
