Phil you have any idea how much stretch it has?
Kmo Amazon has um and they ship international
Amazon.com: JBL 100' Sea Vine Stretchable Float Line - Green: Sports & Outdoors
20% so a 100' line will stretch to 120' . its just enuff to stop a fish from hard stopping when it hits the end of the line.
phil
they are good float lines , they are just stiff enuff that they do not tangle or knot up in use but are still very flexible . they get their stretch from the outer jacket constricting around the neoprene core , they are a good choice for use around reefs ,and structure where a traditional bungie would get destroyed.. it is a cheaper alternative to the riffe spectra floatline Accessories - Float Systems
phil
thats your choice to think what you want . the jbl suit is the only suit on the market that fits me stock without additional tailoring , i have owned ,or tried just about every suit in the market and also have a couple customs i know exactly how a suit should fit.
phil
Phil, now that you say that I'm not sure if you've used an open cell suit. There's no water circulation in the suit at all.
all i wear is a open cell freedive suit , when the water gets really cold you can feel every little trickle that comes in the suit , they are not even close to water tight . you just do notice it in warm water .what do you think happens to all that pee?
phil
When more warmth is needed, it's time to go to a thicker suit all around, not double up on material in a small area of the torso, just where it restricts breathing. What sense does it make to have 7mm around the arms, arm pits, legs and head, and 14mm between your hips and chest. Maybe this worked with double lined scuba suits, but with open cell it doesn't make sense to me.
i have never noticed any restriction in breathing withe ether type of pants with a correctly fitting suit , the reason for 7mill on your arms and leg is they need to flex and bend ,and 14mm on your core because that is where all your vitals are and where the mass of your body is , also when you get cold your blood vesels in your arms and legs constrict to keep blood in your core to conserve warmth . the military makes heated vest to keep your core warm so you can wear thin sleaves and gloves so intricate work can still be done in sub 0 temps . almost all surf suits have a thicker chest than arms and legs .i have worn both and a high wast is colder and you get more water flushing than a farmer jon . the only advantage to a high wast pant is the ability to do a water dump which isnt really a option when you are diving in water cold enuff that you are wearing a 5mm or 7mm suit. to me it makes no sense to wear thick sleaves and a not a doubled up core
phil
it depends on the water temp and also how well your height fits a stock size. personally i would never buy a high wast suit ,i need every bit of warmth i can get . but you warm water guys can get away with alot more than us cold water divers can ,for you a suit is just comfort ,for us it is life or death .it was 40f when i went out last week
phil
You can also put lead shot in a sandwich bag and electrical tape in into a hotdog like shape that will fit into the hole. Just get it in along the center line of the float as it lies on the garage floor or yard when you pour the mixed foam into the hole.
The floats Terry Maas and I made were part of a 3 float system with two of the floats having 2''pvc champers
containing line packs or small parachutes. One of the float held our flares and orange smoke in case we were lost while diving 100 mile offshore.
Cheers. Don
i highly recommend having the flares on the float . its a very big ocean and you get away from the boat fast .
phil
Phil, what are all those colored splotches on the floor?
pigmented epoxy , its the result of years of glassing surfboards , kelp carrots , tuna floats and spearguns . every 6-7 years i have to grind the floor flat
phil
i carry on the fins with a skateboard back pack. ive done it for the last 20 years and never had a problem . sport tube #2 for the guns
phil
One of the floats me and nate have sitting around in our place is one of my old lifeguard rescue cans from my lifeguarding days. I drilled it out and permanently mounted a flag and sealed it with AB pool compound putty but it still leaks a bit.
What are the chances of being able to buy a can or something of expanding foam to fill this thing up with and not have to deal with it leaking anymore? I know it will make the float heavier but will it make it more or less buoyant?
foam weights more than air ,right , so when you replace the air in the float with foam it will weight more relative to its displacement ,so it will "float" less ,and sit lower in the water .
i would use 6- 8 # a=b foam you can get it from tap plastics and most boat building supply houses
phil
I read all 13 Pages--- and I still haven't come across a Mask post where someone can Order it with Prescription Lenses... Would really LIKE to know if the AquaLung or the Micromask can be ordered with prescription lenses?
cressi makes a couple mask that have optional prescription lenses
phil
To be clear, does the arrow tool only show you the bend with shafts, or do you actually straighten them with it too?
If the tool is made to straighten hollow aluminum arrows which don't require much pressure to bend, does using it on a shaft damage the tool's calibration? Thanks.
I tried using a straight edge to check before, but it's confusing because the shaft is springy.
the dial micrometer is on a separate arm from the leaver you use to straighten the shaft with.
the key to the straight edge is it has to be vertical , and you hang the shaft next to it , you cant do it flat
phil
i also use a vertical straight edge to check for straight ,just look for light between the shaft and straight edge , most new shafts are not straight when checked this way .
phil
the stock is simply too thin for its length and band load . adding carbon top and bottom will stiffen it but will change the look .
phil
This will make a very interesting video. But why is it necessary when a shaft can be straightened by hand?
you can fine tune a shaft to be truer than new with a anvil , steel ,and a hammer . you can get it close over your knee , then you true it up . i also use a arrow straightener tool.
phil
the three best are
wong
mori
jbl warhead / (kitto based tip)
on a trip a month ago by the end of the trip almost everyone had a jbl on there gun after seeing the number of ono that were landed where the flopper was all that was holding on to the fish and it would have been lost with another tip . we landed over 100 fish on that trip
two tips
1) when you see a fish dont go straight at it and chase it down , act like you dont care about it and it will come to you .
2)if you want to shoot game fish ,dont shoot reef fish "because i wasn't seeing anything and didnt want to go home with nothing" if you want a certain fish ,only shot that type .
phil
Muck I am in the same boat as you. I love my rob Allen's and I have a few wooden guns in my mind for down the line
As joe said, these are for a starter spearo on a budget
Your post was funny to me, because I agree, but it is also the same logic that was applied historically that has led to the fierce, and stupid, brand wars in the American auto industry.
For many years the cars were all garbage and whichever one you bought first, you hated. Funny how things move in cycles.
one thing to remember is guy skinner only bought jbl 8-9 years ago and ever since has been improving the line and making major changes to in (a lot more are in the works ,but change takes time ). and as it stands jbl is the third largest speargun manufacturer in the world and the product line is improving by the day . i was told the jbl site will be updated soon
phil
I'm very impressed with the introduction of JBLs new guns. Phil, did you help design the JBL midhandle and euro gun? I remember reading a thread somewhere that mentioned your name?
Undersea: I haven't used the JBL yet but the Riffe Euro is a nice gun. I had a 110 and 130 and they were very well balanced guns that shot accurately. However, I sold them and went with Rob Allens because the main advantage of a "euro gun" (for me) is maneuverability + accuracy. The Riffe wasn't too hard to swing but the Rob Allen definitely swings easier.
i wouldn't say i helped designed them , i just gave Guy my opinion here and there ,and said how i would do some things . joe a mentioned in a thread that i helped and he know guy better than me so maybe my opinion means more than i think
i do know they work very well guy and his son shot a lot of fish with them on a trip we took 2 weeks ago (the guns behind him are not what he was using they are mine and another friend on the boats guns )
phil
Kudos to jbl for DRASTICALLY improving their line but the angle of the handle on this gun looks so uncomfortable to me, I cannot imagine it would be fun or comfortable to shoot
actually the angle is perfect if you hold the handle and close your eyes and aim at a target then open your eyes you will be looking flat across the top of the handle . a low recoil gun can get away with more angle but as power increases you need to go closer to 90 degrees .
phil
