I believe most of the shafts companies make shafts that are very poor in hydrodynamics and penetration. They usually have a flopper that sticks out a ton causing drag and poor penetration or huge shark fins or big pin tabs. Flopper, tabs, and sharkfins should all be flushed beneath the surface of spear to get optimum range and speed. It's a tiny bit more work but it would be done right. Tricut is the best spear tip also as it penetrates through fish the best unless you are shooting in the rocky areas.
Posts by greekdiver
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That is gross flexing of the shaft WITH ONLY ONE BAND. I wonder how much it has to do with the huge tip. In my mind shooting with a 1/2" diameter tip is like shooting with a 1/2" diameter shaft.
My guess is that the force required to overcome the water resistance drastically impacts the flight of smaller shafts when big diameter tips are used.
That's an oring on the tip of spear, not a huge speartip.
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Stop trying to copy the denton
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Nice fish
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I will still use my 100cm pneumatic for hole gun and shooting big fish with a second shot. The 8mm short shaft is unbendable! Ask Davie how well the 100cm pneumatic penetrated the head of a 60lb cobia. It went through it like butter!
I will use my pneumatic to put a second shot in any big fish.
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Big mutton was 92ft and the rest were 65ft.
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Ok, I see where you are coming from. So, if we mount the Abellan gun and a equally rigged gun (of any brand) to a vise allowing no movement/recoil they will shoot the same right? By the way shooting to the end of 2 wraps with no drop is very good. At the end it does comes down to personal preference and you being happy with it.
Yes. So much power is lost in recoil.
Like i said, the Abellan has what i look for in a gun. It's my personal preference, and i feel confident shooting it which is most important.
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What does it weigh with the shaft?
Don't get me wrong, it's a well made gun and aesthetically pleasing too. I found the finish on the gun Johnny used so nice that I'd be worried about getting a scratch on it. I believe that gun was made for shooting that Mediterranean snapper looking fish that doesn't allow divers to get close. It's supposed to be a long shooting gun and that's what all that mass is for. But in this case it's supposed to take like two 19mm bands, crazy, it should shoot straight to the end of 2 wraps of line. But I wouldn't want to shoot two 19mm bands all the time.
It shoots straight now to the end of 2 wraps without drop with 16mm bands.
Btw that rubber you have looks great!
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Why not? If the band stretch is the same, the same shaft and bands I don't see why any other gun would not shoot the same. I am not talking about recoil, tracking or anything else, just range and power. Care to elaborate?
How much a gun recoils affects the power of the shot.
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I understand you're just making the move to band guns. This fast shot, powerful, rangy gun, all that is dependent on is the two 16mm rubbers you have it rigged with and the weight of the shaft. Any other stick with that band load and the same weight shaft will shoot just as powerful and fast and have the same range.
This Abellan gun looks similar to the gun Johnny said you lent him, which he used when he came out with us. It may be the same gun or not, it doesn't matter because they are both Abellan and I can see that the shape of the stock is similar. I held and fired that gun that day. It's a heavy log, very difficult to track and not suitable for the kind of hunting we do here. You don't need that kind of mass to control recoil from two 16mm bands. If I sound a little curt it's because you've always insisted, albeit in a humorous fashion, on the superiority of the pneumatic. Now you found a wood band gun that is "comparable"
Wait till you try one actually made for our waters.So this is what you are saying.... If you take a railgun for example with the same shaft and length as abellan, and put the same rubbers and stretch, you will get the same power and distance of shot? That's not true.
I don't find the gun difficult to track at all. It is super light in the water and it tracks much better than my mako 120cm.
It's all personal preference and this gun does what i want in a gun.
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Nice fishing Greekdiver. That shaft on the band gun looks almost too short. Is that the one that came with the gun?
yes thats how it comes. 7.5mm shaft and is 130cm long.
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Very nice fish Greek. If you like I can sacrifice enough of my precious low ID 16mm rubber to make you two bands, so you can compare it to the other rubber. It's the one from this thread http://spearfishing.world/spea…sing-water-intrusion.html
Sure. I will try it out and let you know results. How much you have left of it? What brand is it or who makes it?
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That´s an Abellán, right?
What happened to your pneumatics?I still use my pneumatic. I found a gun that was comparable to pneumatic. Abellan Denton 110cm. Really fast shot, powerful, small gun that has range, ect..
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Nice looking gun Greek, and I see you know what your doing with the band elongation.
Mori has always had some of the best rubber I have ever tested.
Cheers, Don Paulmy wishbones were too long but i will test again more rubbers from him. Which rubbers did you test from him?
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I'm trying out new rubbers for gun. Today i tested the yellow 16mm high modulus bands from Mori. Overall, i was pleased with results and power. I plan on trying out some Gorilla, 15mm mori, and some rob allen for future tests.
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Fuckin ouch.
i can't imagine how pissed you are. I know i would be.
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There is an invisible floatline sold here.
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Nice black!
