Posts by Chase

    I've been noticing a lot less shootable fish lately and maybe it's just the time of year, idk.. But it gets a fellah thinking about other fish I don't normally target and I wonder how they taste. I dont really like to shoot fish just to kill or chum with, I prefer to eat what I catch. I also don't enjoy shooting something and get home to find out it's not too tastey.


    My question is: What is everyone's opinion on Black Margate?


    They're a member of the Grunt family, but I've read so many mixed reviews on their edibility. I usually see some up to 10lbs in size and are very tempting to shoot. What say you gents? :confused1:


    Here's a pic:

    Theories... if it was better it would be the standard. Like I said, it fills a niche for a specific target market. If you like it, great. But your beating a dead horse. You're never going to win over everyone so just keep shooting whatever you like. :thumbsup2:

    Dan,


    How do you tie in the wishbone in your new bands? And what's the max stretch ratio you can cut them to?


    I like the concept very much. Smaller bands, more power.

    I would never trust a penetration test. The only reason being that I always find myself saying either "I cant believe the spear went clear through that fish" or "I cant believe the flopper didn't even get through". I realize a foam pad and a fish are different but the same rules apply.


    A chronograph is the only way to get a definite result. As someone just said on here "two spears with the same mass, the faster one has more power " Simple as that.


    So you don't think that a 6.5mm spear shaft will have a higher initial velocity than a 7.5mm spear shaft? A heavier object takes more force to get it going, but once it's going it retains more energy for a longer period of time.

    A penetration test is interesting if you are able to remove any angle from the spear. As mentioned above the penetration takes into account several factors. If you had some sort of thick foam (held in place) you could shoot point bank and see how far the spear goes in. You would need something long with enough resistance so the spear does not completely go through.


    Why do you feel that it should be point blank, instead of a realistic distance such as 5 - 6 meters? Just curious, because like I said before a thinner shaft like 6.5mm will have a lot of velocity in the beginning. As it makes its way down range it loses velocity/power pretty quickly. Especially on a dense target like a fishes skull.

    That has to do with the density of water compared to air not how an object moves threw it. That same "sniper rifle" fired at sea leave will have more drop at a mile than if fired at say 10,000ft elevation because of the difference in air density. I get where your coming from and I to just want to see results be it velocity or penetration


    You are correct to a certain degree. However people are trying to compare two different objects on two different platforms. A firearm is a complex weapon. A Speargun is simply a metal rod placed on top of a platform, which is locked into some sort of trigger mechanism to control it's release and is propelled by latex rubber bands. A firearm is placing a very small projectile in a precise spot at a very violent rate of speed. A speargun is placing a very large projectile in comparison with more room for error in regards to shot placement. So it's not just the atmosphere that object is moving through, but also the object itself.


    That's why IMO these are not fair comparisons and should be removed from the argument.

    Hau,


    Just curious, are you a gunsmith on Ft. Bragg in NC for the green berets? If so we may have met, I've been there quite a few times. They have a sweet indoor range.


    Chase