Don Paul >Spearguns fusiles Vintage Españoles

  • Como se que te gusta la historia, los pioneros y los fusiles antiguos, te remito este enlace,
    As you like walking through the past, see the pioneers and old rifles, I am sending you this link


    Fusiles Vintage Españoles - Página Jimdo de nemrod77





  • I wonder if the "Dragon" pneumatic is a re-issue of the "Galeon" as it has a similar construction with the handgrip being a separate moulding to the mid-body section. The "Dragon" grip is black and inserts into a yellow upper body, whereas the "Galeon" has grey and black respectively. I have seen many "Galeon" guns in the seventies, but never seen a "Dragon" until this Jimbo page displayed them. Nemrod often re-used some parts in their next series of guns and some grips even crossed over to be used in a band gun, e.g. the "Gaucho" grip which made an earlier appearance on the "Silver" series full length concentric tank guns. Very interesting to see all the Spanish guns shown on the one web-page which facilitates visual comparisons between the various models.

  • The interesting rifle is the catapult model an innovation for that time, a number of units were made due to its complexity in handling, too futuristic for that time, its scope was 2 meters accurate. Marc-Antoine Berry made a model based on catapult, is not the same but is based on an idea that did not work because of its complicated operation, the arrow was introduced into the lower tube and shot out the thick tube was only for the cañon not bend .


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    El fusil interesante es el modelo catapulta una innovacion para aquellas fechas, se hicieron una serie de unidades debido a su complejidad en el manejo, demasiado futurista para aquellas fechas, su alcance era 2 metros certeros. Marc-Antoine Berry hizo un modelo en basado en catapulta, no es igual pero se basa en una idea que no funciono debido a su complicado manejo, la flecha se introducia dentro del tubo inferior y salia disparada, el tubo grueso solo era para que el cañon no se doblara..

  • The interesting rifle is the catapult model an innovation for that time, a number of units were made due to its complexity in handling, too futuristic for that time, its scope was 2 meters accurate. Marc-Antoine Berry made a model based on catapult, is not the same but is based on an idea that did not work because of its complicated operation, the arrow was introduced into the lower tube and shot out the thick tube was only for the cañon not bend .


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    El fusil interesante es el modelo catapulta una innovacion para aquellas fechas, se hicieron una serie de unidades debido a su complejidad en el manejo, demasiado futurista para aquellas fechas, su alcance era 2 metros certeros. Marc-Antoine Berry hizo un modelo en basado en catapulta, no es igual pero se basa en una idea que no funciono debido a su complicado manejo, la flecha se introducia dentro del tubo inferior y salia disparada, el tubo grueso solo era para que el cañon no se doblara..


    I would say that "Catapult" gun is the Spanish response to the "Fusil Americain Sous Marin" with the two pistol grips shown here:
    Spearguns, Fusil American guns, www.skindivinghistory.com


    The gun is band powered using an upper slotted barrel for an impeller unit to travel in which is hauled forwards by a roller system that wraps the bands back under the barrel where the band anchor can be moved rearwards to change the shooting power if you operate a hinged lever. The spear tail can be locked into either pistol grip's sear mechanism to effectively provide four shooting powers with the gun acting either as a rear handle or mid-handle gun. A lock-out function in the safety mechanism prevents the forward sear interfering with the shot being taken from the rear handle.


    French patent is dated 28th April 1949 and this diagram shows how the gun operates.

  • Marco, Don Paul de nada se que os gustan estas cosas. ;) :D


    Popgun Pete But that response Nemrod is an idea floating in the air and all the capture although they are in different places, they can be improved for the benefit of spearfishing.


    So I say innovation in spearfishing ideas are enhanced by others or by the creators.


    So I see it as Marc improved in wooden rifle.


    Thanks for your input and comment


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    Mas que respuesta de Nemrod es una idea que flota en el aire y todos la captan aunque esten en distintos lugares, pudiendo mejorarse para beneficio de la pescasubmarina.


    Por eso digo innovacion, en la pescasubmarina las ideas son mejoradas por otros o por los mismos creadores.


    Asi vemos como Marc la mejoro en fusil de madera.


    Gracias por tu aportacion y comentario:);)

  • This Copino rear handle pneumatic gun from 1973 is of interest, particularly as it is a gun that Nemrod should have made as they had the basis for the required parts in their inventory. A partitioned air reservoir, two power gun, like the Mares "Sten" from about 7 years prior, there is a problem with it as Copino too closely followed Nemrod with this feature. A clue is you can easily see it on the muzzle detail if you know what you are looking at. I have written about this before, so it should not be too hard to figure out.


    Photos are extracted from the Jimdo museum web-site mentioned here earlier.

  • Here is the answer, the muzzle relief ports are in the wrong place to allow water in the inner barrel an alternate series of pathways to escape, so the Copino "Divider" model will be hydro-braked when it shoots. Nemrod did exactly the same thing with their near identical muzzles until they moved the ports rearward in the "Clipper" guns and they may have made retrospective changes to later production of their previous models.

  • En ese lugar nemrod ni copino podía hacer los puertos de salida de aire, porque dentro tiene unos tacos de goma bastante resistente que amortiguan el pistón, otros fabricantes optaban por poner muelles para amortiguar el impacto del émbolo, pero el disparo no era tan silencioso como estos, pienso que no le quita fuerza en la salida de la flecha ya que esta antes del taco de goma que era lo que podría ofrecer resistencia.

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