Welcome to the forum Oscar. I'm an old fart as well (47). How old are you?
Hola Marco gracias! Bueno pues tengo 71 de anos pero hijos (mellisous de 13 anos). Si soy vïejito y ud muy joven todavia 
fue Una vez a las Islas afuera de Caracas pero de visita no de pesca pero me parece que deben de ser muy buenas para el buseo! Asi es?
Saludos - Oscar
Oscar, the specs you provided don't help me answer your question. As a rule I cut the bands to %300 elongation, using a very short wishbone (it is then up to the individual user to shorten them if they want more punch. But %300 is relative to the band stretch, which I measure similar to what Lunker Buster posted, except to the tab closest to the mech, on the shaft that's coming with the gun. For the stated band stretch I measure to the mech mouth. Because theoretically that's where someone could put a notch or a tab if they wanted to, and that's the maximum band stretch possible with the gun. Going by this last method, the band stretch of the 120 is.. surprise! 120cm
I gotcha. Wishbone to last tab is what I. Was calling pull/stretch for lack of better measurement but thinking more, analyzing your and Lunker posted, agree my measurement really doesn't mean much.
Thinking more about this - probably irrelevant anyway since they are very different style guns and shaft dia is probably another factor.
Guess I will just have to buy yours and test them in real life <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin"> <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">
Thanks for trying :). Really nice looking guns very tempting.
Oscar, what is your way of measuring band pull?
Already owning two American style teak guns of similar size, Riffe midhandle 50 and 55 inch (130 cm = 51 inch) approximately, was trying to get a feel/comparison (on paper) of the power/shooting range and thought knowing the bands and stretch would give me an approximation.
For example my 50 inch uses9/16 x 24 inch (61 cm bands (3) with a stretch of 39 inches or 99 cm - while my 55 inch uses 3 9/16 x 26 inch (66 cm) with a stretch of 44 inches or 112 cm.
Or am I trying to compare apples and oranges? I havent handled aEuro style gun sine the 60's and 70's and curious of the comparison. The Spearfining spearguns are great looking so .............. Rationalizing :nono: or is that justifying? 
For full frontal pics and tapers for now I urge you to visit the bikini thread
Medium size reel on the 110 and large on the 120.
OK but I've already worn out my keyboard visiting the bikini thread but if you insist ..... <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">
Dan what are the band lengths and band pull (lentgh) on the current 120 and the future 130 and 140's?
Thanks - beautiful guns.
NOTE TO SELF: DONT MOUNT THE F'in Camera on the back of the gun then dive into a cave with 0 vis and shoot a 12 pound dog and fight it till out of air!! RESULT= no camera, no spear BUT I got the fish :@
OK, I agree with Dan & Hank. There is a story imbedded in this one (lose spear and camera but got the fish) and we would loooooovvvvveeeeeee to hear the details!!! :@
Standing by when you get Internet again 
It does look great. I grew up in Panama and we used Corvina cut in about the same size as yours, but we only used Key lime juice, very little salt, and chopped Habanero peppers and that's all. I have had cevichi in Mexico, Costa Rica, and several other styles, BUT The BEST ceviche I have ever had was in Peru. They use flounder I think, cut into slices, use key lime juice, sliced onion, and make it in front of you and serve it immediately. Reallllly good: oh they also serve it with corn on the cob on the side. Yummy.
Hey Dan - I like it and ............. I can use during duck season too <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">
But seriously like Nate - I like your Pacific/Green Camo better and hope it is available when I order later this year.
Great collection - thanks for sharing. Maybe a story or two to go with these - when you have some time.
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I was in the midst of rotating home when this one hit. I arrived back on US soil Memorial day and was home two days later.
Two days later is when The Monster landed. About half a mile as the crow flies from our home. Oddly enough, I was rear ended in OKC that afternoon which totaled the vehicle . About 3 hours later, we were hiding from the big bastard ( 2.6 miles across) that hit the east side of our town . First tornado I've been through that had me scared. But all in all, we're all safe and aside from needing a new roof , we're intact.
Love to all my friends here,
Aaron, Alissa and Aeryn Brooke
Glad you are home and sustained little damage - little is relative to the really bad stuff. I was teaching at the FAA academy when the monster approached Moore (just south f academy) and took my class into the underground tunnels. Bad ass storm and worse part was losing the kids in the demolished school - but could have been worse. Bad sxxt. Welcome back!
Welcome to the forum Oscar.
I believe I've seen that jewfish picture floating around for a few years. Cool to have the background story.
While the plentiful fish and lobster are probably a thing of the past, one consolation is that spearfishing gear has improved greatly. A good thing for older guys who want to be as comfortable as they can be.
Thanks Dan - Had no idea my old photo had made the rounds - internet is what it is I guess.
But yes - Which means I'll be ordering one of your 5 mm wetsuits when I return from Panama (if I have any money left over) and before trying to head to La Paz in April/May. Old guys need to stay warm <img src= " class="smiley" srcset="https://spearfishing.world/forum/images/smilies/emojione/1f606@2x.png 2x" height="23" width="23" loading="eager" data-tooltip="biggrin" aria-label="biggrin">
My avatar is an old photo that an old spearo I dove with in Panama in the 50's-70's posted on my Facebook last year. He still lives in Panama and still very active spearo. The photo is me with 352 pound Jew Fish (weight written on back of original photo) freediving in Panama sometime in the late 50's. I recall that fish, wasn't my largest, but taken with Arbollete tied to a yellow nylon ski rope with an empty Clorox bottle on the end for a flat. This was our big fish rig in the early days.
One day I speared a HUGE Jewfish in deep water, maybe 700 + pounds, and the ski rope got caught on my weight belt. I was going down fast until I finally pulled rope off the belt and made it to the surface. Fish took everything.
Me and two diving buddies won three International Spearfishing tournaments held in Panama in the 60's with a boat full of BIG jewfish, large Broomtail groupers and Big Dog Tooth Pargos. Boat gun well was so low we could only go slow to keep from swamping. All fish went to orphanages so no waste!
Another time I speared a 15-18 foot Sawfish in about 80 feet of water (we always had a pool for largest fish taken) that took me for a long ride before disappearing with my gun, ski rope and Clorox bottle never to be seen again.
Not sure if this still occurs, but up through the time I left Panama in 1978, a steady off shore breeze in the Dry Season (November/December -April or May) would push out the surface water in the Bay of Panama (Pacific) and allow the very COLD upwelling from the Humbol current move in with very neutrinos water and the fish. Jew Fish by the hundreds, Red Snappers to turn the water Red, and everything else including huge Amberjacks. Oh yes, lots of aggressive sharks too - lost many fish and gear to sharks back then. Best part was the cold water made the spiny lobster lethargic and i could catch many on a single dive, coming up with them under my arms, inside my bathing suit, and one in each hand - no one said being young was smart. Catching a hundred pounds of lobsters was not unusual - we would sell them to the American Legion Resturant on Amador for $.50 a pound and they only bought fresh live ones.
Red Snapper we sold for $.20 cents a pound and jewfish for $.10 if under 100 pounds. Corvina and Snook went for a little more as I recall. This is how I made money in High School. Lobsters were easy money, I could pick up enough for a date after school diving along the causeway in Amador at the entrance to the Canal on the Pacific side.
Those were the days for sure. Remember the old Skin Diver magazine? I recall the early spearo's club out in California - The Bottom Scatchers. Still around Bill? The equipment we used back in those days, small black full foot Cressida fins (still have them) oval mask, French double and four band spearguns (4 separate bands each with threads for wishbones and front of spearguns that would easily corrode and freeze. Lousy bands too. But we free dived to a hundred feet and speared fish with that equipment. I also used two Italian Spring guns in the early 70's - pain to load, had to get on shore or boat to load by pushing down with spear on boat deck or rocks on shore.
Oh sorry - didn't mean to get carried away but getting the "bug" again and reading all of your stories starts me down memory lane and the "good old days".
Following the forum rules and introducing myself. I was born and raised in the former Canal Zone in Panama and started spearfishing in the 50's with the French Arbolet spearguns. I essentially grew up on the ocean and spearfished in Panama until I left in late 1978 to live in the U.S. (Montana, Seattle, Washington, D.C.) and did occasional scuba diving trip until I moved to South Florida in mid 90's when I started spearfishing and lobstering again (freediving). Moved to Singapore and took all of my spearfishing gear, Riffe Mid handle spearguns plus all the accoutrements but never got to use them. Did a fair amount of scuba diving but no spearfishing. Returned to U.S. in 2004 to north Texas and have not been spearfishing since a short trip to Panama in 2003.
Retired in December 2011 here in North Texas, started late and have 13 year old twins, Had a birthday last December that ended with a big zero (those are tough especially the 7th one). Started chasing kids , soccer, piano, etc., and felt like I was getting old - SO, pulled out all of my spearo gear, bought new bands for my 50 & 55 inch Riffe spearguns, cleaned up my Omer mask & snorkel, looking for open cell freediving wetsuit (Speardiver or xxxxx ok Speardiver ), and made plans for family vacation (their first) to Panama next month and I'm getting back in the water, and now talking with James Curtis at Cortez Club in La Paz and planning a Spring Spearfishing trip (me alone - kids in school) to hunt big cold water Yellowtail in Sea of Cortez in April or May. Also planning to return end of next year to La Paz so twins can swim with Whale Sharks and I get to try for Tuna or Wahoo/Ono next Fall.
Feel lost landlocked in North Texas far from divable ocean - but family is settled so hope to make a trip or two a year to spearfish. got the bug again and trying to get back in freediving shape.
Sorry for being long winded - so hi! Nice to be here. Will find an avatar to post soon. Thanks!
