this discussion is getting interesting. marco made a good point here. i agree with his opinion a lot.
the best training to become a better freediver is : freediving.
the best training to become a better spearfisher is : spearfishing.
of course it will help a spearfisher to have good freediving abilitys such as diving deep and long bottomtime. so it wont hurt to read some literature about freediving or even do a course.
but that is just one part out of many to become a complete,good, and safe spearfisher.
abilitys like good physical stamina, handling and preparing of all your spearfishingequipment, guns,reels,lines,floats,etc., handling all encounters with all types of marinelife,eels,sharks, boxjellys,firecoral etc., know how to catch and handle your game, know how to deal with all the environmental conditions like tides,swells,moon,current,bad vis, weatherchange-rain and thunderstorms, handling of boats and engine,how to drive them,repair them, knowing to navigate, know how to deal with emergency case out in the sea, beeing able to watch out and assist your dive buddys while driving the boat or beeing in the water with them, etc,etc,etc,!
but on top of all important abilities for a good spearfisher i consider a good hunting and survival instinct.
the ability to automatically do the right thing in any occuring situation,hunting game or dealing with danger, can be trained only by expierience. going spearfishing again and again, if possible with other well expirienced spearfishers or by yourself.
i think that someone who train competetive freediving for 10 years, and spearfish 2-3 times a year,
can hardly be,what i would consider a good spearfisher.
on the other hand i believe there are a lot of good longyear spearfishers who wouldnt go nowhere in competitive freediving.
getting back to the start of the thread: havent read this book. if you get it,read it , and let me know if you learned something usefull. hehe, so i dont have to read it, dont like reading.
Posts by tinu
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seaweed,
thats no joke man. when the flying fish season gets hot, and you find them on a special moon they go crazy.
i ve been fishing for them drifting with the boat and 2-3 gillnets in the water and some line and hook in the water for mahi etc. while drifting in the blue i just jump in and drift with the boat in little distance, trying to get some mahis and wahoo. there have been days where the flyers get so thick in the water you cant even see your speartip again,and next they start laying eggs on me and my gun, that i have to get back in the boat. we had lost nets already because while cleaning one net the next one will get so heavy so fast that we had to cut it. -
2 screws are needed. Wood guns are very versatile when mounting reels, not like pipe guns. Looks like the rob allen would fit well.
it look so on that picture above. but i am not sure, is that reel made of metal/stainless ?
and the mounting part dont look like the original one, so i figure that is custombuilt.
from what i can see on the following pic, the reel is made of plastic, and the mounting part is to be screwed onto the barrel with two srews( wich will obviously only work with foamfilled barrels ?) and the reel will just slip onto that mounting part without any further srews or pins etc. my question is : would it be able to srew that mounting part onto a riffe comp, maybe with some slight grinding to fit, and hold up tight ?
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2008 the BBC camera team from the blue planet series came to tobago to get some footage of flying fish, since tobago is known as the home of flying fish (probably the most caught fish in trinbago).
to get some goot shots on their take off and flight, they ask a spearofriend(and marine biologist) of mine to go with them, going in the water and shooting a spear in the fishs direction with a tennisball stuck to the speartip. was working that way. but they didnt got enuff footage, so they came back to the island this spring and went out with a local fisherman, barry, and his boat "hog snapper".
barry use to spearfish, and love the hogsnapper so bad, that he even named his boat so. he will trade any mahi or wahoo for a hoggie, since he dont get to divemuch again. anyway, they got some good footage again.
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nice!:thumbsup2:
water looking blue. any dolphin ? -
i have seen some good reviews on the rob allen reel as well. the only reels ive used are the metal jbl reels.
worked pretty well for me,price is ok too but are a bit heavy, specially since i had to switch from my competitor 4x to the comp.3x, the gun gun sinks heavy. my wrist goes through some pressure! they last me between 6-10 month intensive use and little mantainance. -
never seen a rob allen reel, only in pics. cant figure out how the mount is built. to me it looks that the
holding part have to be screwed into the barrel ? would oubviously only work with foamfilled barrel.
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Some marine animals could tax heavily on diving gear, that is the case of some local sea lions, They pop as a candy the crimp and wire off the stringer
that look like serious power. do these seals attack and take your fish of the spear as well ?
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thats why i dont bother with them as well. if there is better fish to eat.
but they are one hard fighting fish! did you see them in big schools or one one ?
here they love to be in green murky waters. if we see them in clean water, hardly ever get them. -
thats some nice fish.:thumbsup2:
i dont like to eat these crevalle jacks, in trinbago they are kinda tuff and very bloody meet.
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great thread Tinu, i personally dont shoot big fish
and often because my gear is not up to it
with this rig I wont shoot a big fish that might run on me simply because I dont have enough range to play and land them...hey LB,
at least you try to prepare yourself and your gear good. and when the monster comes, take this advise:
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The biggest cubera I've ever shot was during a competition in Venezuela. suddenly I heard a "click" and the fish swam away and all I had was the rear part of the shaft broken ant the notch...
That cubera was at least 80 pounds heavy, but could be even more.
I dove like 30 more times in the area but couldn't find him. Sad...
Then, I learned to drill a hole in front of the notches and never again i lost a fish for that reason.
Now I use either Rob Allen shafts (I don't care about rust) or Riffe.marco, thats a great/sad story. sure would have been the monster of that competition.
things like that happened to me, and it was always very hard to get over it.
specially when you can already see the fish and then just have to watch him swimming away to die.
hey, wasnt it you who recently said in the thread :" best spearfishing brand", definetely NOT OMER ! -
I have never lost a single fish due to a broken shaft or flopper. I've shot barracudas and cobias in the 45lb range, groupers in the high 20s and jacks up to 65lbs but I've never broken a shaft or a flopper. Not sure why that is but it could be shot placement, environment I fish in or just luck I guess. The shafts I used the most were double flopper pinned shafts from Demka/Spetton in the 7mm thickness.
adrian, placement of shot,the environment and just luck/or no luck , are three good reasons to get,
or loose fish. as well the quality and mantainance of your gear.
maybe these spetton/demka spears are well made.just some weeks ago, i bought a new riffe spear 8mm for my competitor 3x. told the person who brought it over for me, to check in the shop that the flopper and the flopperpin are well mounted. when i got it, i checked and it looked well made.
i shot "2" snappers with the spear on the first day of use, and then a 20pound barra. i hit him in the center body, the spear stucked inside the fish half way out on each side. probably hit the spine a bit because the fish didnt run too hard and kinda circling around. before i started to put pressure on the line i realized that the flopper was completely gone. i was lucky still getting the fish because the spear stucked kinda hard in the body, and i went down quick to grab the tip of the spear.
i have very bad expierience with the riffe flopperpins. they bent and break very easy.i started using jbl pins, the ones with the hollow part to hammer down easy. they work better for me. but still, not good.
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reading in another thread that some members here have never expierienced a broken shaft, with the following note that they dont shoot "big fishes" wich could break their shaft, i thought i start this thread.
personally i am always surprised about the amount of pressure even relatively small fishes can put on your gear. even more i am surprised by people who diving at least now and then, saying such things as "i dont shoot big fish". i went out for shoredives on my own with the intention of just shooting couple mangroves and parrots, and came back shore with big cuberas,barras,grouper or cobia. found 25 meters off the beach in 20feet shallow waters. it rarely ever happen, but it does and will happen again. and when it happens you better be prepared, and make sure your equipment is even better prepared.
years ago i used a standard european speargun, a beuchat mundial, with the 6.5mm shaft who have these notches cut into the shaft for the metalwishbones. i had these shafts break right at the notch by shooting 15pound barras or jacks. and even saw them break there from fish running into caves and trying to go around some corners, bending the shaft and finally breaking it. waste of time.
using riffe shafts with sharfintabs for a good while, this problem never happened again. but i seen 7,8 and 9.5mm riffe shafts bent in all shapes, circles, snakes, spiral etc.
and still loosing fish because the flopper and specially the flopperpin will break. i have to change my flopper and pin every week on my two shafts. one of my spearo friends, only using 9.5mm bluewatershafts, with two floppers, one up one down and 3 inches distance with extra big holes to fit the extra fat pins cut out of wishbonematerial. now the pin will hold up but sometimes the whole flopper break off the holding pin.
would be interesting to hear of other peoples expierience and storys about how fishes can damage your equipment, and how people trying to solve these problems.
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i thinking about getting a new underw.cam this summer. thought of buying a small canon powershot, one of the newer ones that can film in hd already. saw them in pricerange with housing at about 500.-us. i had good expirience with canon cams and housings, and with compatibility issues on editing the material. now i see everybody is talking bout gopro. any one who seen some of my pics/vids think i could get better quality material with the gopro?
few questions: there is no screen on the gopro ?
does the "magix15"editingprogram works for it ?
i saw in another thread everyone talking about fixing the blurryproblem. so what is it finally now?
can i buy a gopro and start filming with best results or do i need to modify and work on the cam first ?
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if the problem is because you not using the right technique, you will be able to work out the problem by training, probably with someone qualified to show you how. did you ever scubadive and had a problem to equalize ? if the problem is because of your physics, its gonna be harder to improve. some people just have some sinusproblems by nature through small chambers etc. in their head.
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I have to disagree (again :rolleyes1:) with Dan. The spear tip must alway be VERY sharp. If you keep your spear tip where it is supposed to be you will never poke yourself.
A hand file is more than enough.
i agree with marco on that point. a friend of mine and a damn good spearo told me once :
"a sharp tip is like adding an extra band to the gun".
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I wonder what the Nassau grouper thinks of all this
pretty sure he think " thank god i made it out of trinbago waters"....!
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This morning I had this gem of an email waiting for me. Looks like Larry Carter is definitely spearbroad material.
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Jesus what a jerk!!!!!!!! I devote hundreds of hours to our sport...who are you?? what do you do for the sport??? I am up to my ears in bids for National Competitions , running probably the largest Spearfishing club in the world, and doing what I do for the IUSA which by the way is issuing World Records to about fifty divers a year who would otherwise not have them.....and I have some idiot tell me to give him a clarification now!!!!!!!!!!!! as towhy we wont accept his big time record for shooting a cow??? Are you fucking kidding me ??????..
from someone in his position i would expect to be much more reasonable.
another encouragement to teach children to watch their language.
