Range, one vs two wraps of shooting line

  • i know how you guys hate reels but having your reel line tied straight to the shaft avoids all of this.and if no line is taken by the fish its just a matter of throwing the wrap back over the line release.

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  • Ok here is the picture of the basic idea. This is from my Toyota truck. Imagine putting a similar system on the bottom a barrel. This is a line anchor! It is fully adjustable and holds incredibly well.


    I have also included a simple drawing that show how an aluminum barrel could be extruded to utilze this. Hell, you could also throw an enclosed track on the barrel as well!

  • OK, now my mind is racing... a reel could also be incorporated into the track as well. making it adjustable to help with balance of the gun.


    And Dare I say the handle as well?!! Although that would be much more complicated as it would have to utilize a pushrod and slide trigger assembly to work.

  • Dan, do you have any experience with the Riffe Metal tech? If so, You will know what I am basing most of this on.


    The idea could be fairly simple or get complicated real fast. The idea though, is to design a platform or foundation that can easily be modified or built upon to suit the needs or wants of the user. The idea goes hand in hand with the Picatinny style systems used for military firearms.

  • Post progress pics :thumbup:


    John, not too much experience with it but I'm assuming the spear track sits in a just such a groove.


    Exactly. You can swap out the open track to an enclosed track by removing the muzzle and sliding the track out of the slot. Now by adding such a system to the bottom, one could also slide in accesories such as a reel, line anchor,weights or a handle; and position them as desired for different shaft lengths and diameters to control balance, ballast or shooting line length.

  • that is a great model there John, the toyo bed track is marvel of engineering in and of itself.



    I think the idea has a lot of practical use, especially because you can swap accessories at will, add a light to the front for crevices, a spike in sharky waters, a reel, a place for powerheads (dan Mcmahon style), or as mike said, adjust from mid handle to rear handle :@

    i like to spear fish

  • In order to help make this more a a reality than a "pipe dream" here is a picture of a rifle stock that I have that incorporates this very idea.


    As per Mike's (ladvr) comment on the dovetail bit, this is exactly what this stock utilizes. The track is an aluminum track that is bolted in place once slid into the dovetail cut. This allows a bipod to be installed and positioned in the user's preferred location.


    My idea is simply to expand on this and simply install the track along the entire length of the stock except for the last few inches, in which the trigger mech would be installed in a "normal" manner. The same could go for a rail/pipe gun, with the handle and trigger mech assembly, also being installed in the normal manner.

  • May as well put a track on the sides for various wings, side stocks etc...


    Good idea! Now add Tinman's AR-15 handle to the mix, and I would say that this is the "ultimate" in fully adjustable speargun technology:toast:

  • Windsurfers use a track to attach the sail to the board. There's one metal piece that slides inside the track, and it has a bolt hole. Anything that screws into that bolt hole automatically tightens the piece in the track and makes everything stay in place. It withstands great forces as you can imagine holding up a sail and a person hanging off the boom.


    The track similar to what I'm talking about is the third one down. It's actually a compact system, more so than what it looks like in the pic. And it can be much smaller on a speargun.



    This is the brass slider.



    I'd just like to say that while the idea is sound and I believe it will work, I wouldn't use it myself. I like simplicity in spearguns.

  • Like I said Dan, the idea can range from simple to extremely complicated. The nice thing though, is that a user can simply adjust the location of equipment on the gun if if it not to their exact preferences without drilling a bunch of holes or completely phucking up the gun. This is not the case with most guns, where if something is not to exact preferences one must either dramatically change the gun or simply try to seek out something that is more preferable; which can get very expensive.


    In the simplest model, the gun could be built as a standard pipegun, which for the most part is a modular unit anyway.The only difference is that it would have the rails or tracks, for the option of adding accesories.

  • You know if the part of the track that's not being used could be filled with a dummy plastic piece/strip it wouldn't be that bad, I mean it would be streamlined. But there's no room for it on a conventional pipe. The shape of the stock would have to be something like the Riffe metal tech.

  • You know if the part of the track that's not being used could be filled with a dummy plastic piece it wouldn't be that bad, I mean it would be streamlined. But there's no room for it on a conventional pipe. The shape of the stock would have to be something like the Riffe metal tech.


    Agreed.:toast:

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