Band guns are superior to pneumatics

    Quote from greekdiver

    Small pneumatics to fire in poor vis and close range are easily dominant. You can load them way faster and they cut through the water like a knife.

    You specified small pneumatics but I think that all pneumatics are not faster to load than a band gun as is evident in your video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcDk5LqjVlY :D Especially if you factor in the time of taking out the loader from wherever your have it stashed and then replacing it.


    It is also interesting to note that pneumatics have the potential of firing as you're loading them, this is not possible with band guns. Also the shaft release mechanism on a pneumatic is less secure than a wood gun with a stainless steel mech. It's much more sensitive and can release if the gun sustains an impact. Wear on the pneumatic release mech is not evident unless you take apart the gun.

    Quote from seahunter49

    You specified small pneumatics but I think that all pneumatics are not faster to load than a band gun as is evident in your video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcDk5LqjVlY :D Especially if you factor in the time of taking out the loader from wherever your have it stashed and then replacing it.


    It is also interesting to note that pneumatics have the potential of firing as you're loading them, this is not possible with band guns. Also the shaft release mechanism on a pneumatic is less secure than a wood gun with a stainless steel mech. It's much more sensitive and can release if the gun sustains an impact. Wear on the pneumatic release mech is not evident unless you take apart the gun.



    This is only true when the small set screw in back of the trigger is tampered with. That's where you adjust the sensitivity on the trigger, otherwise the gun wouldn't have a reason why to fire from an impact.


    I've had my gun go off from impacts and it was due to messing with the set screw.


    I also have had my gun go off while loading and it was because the line release was staying in the fired position, keeping the trigger pressed back.

    Quote from seahunter49

    You specified small pneumatics but I think that all pneumatics are not faster to load than a band gun as is evident in your video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcDk5LqjVlY :D Especially if you factor in the time of taking out the loader from wherever your have it stashed and then replacing it.


    It is also interesting to note that pneumatics have the potential of firing as you're loading them, this is not possible with band guns. Also the shaft release mechanism on a pneumatic is less secure than a wood gun with a stainless steel mech. It's much more sensitive and can release if the gun sustains an impact. Wear on the pneumatic release mech is not evident unless you take apart the gun.


    I load the small pneumatic without a loader or if i really pump it up with a loader thats connected to my wrist. I just grab it and ram it down the barrel and let the line hang since its a close range gun. Trust me its way faster. No contest.

    I have used pneumatics you know. A Cyrano 970 was my first speargun. The transition from that to a production wood band gun was very easy and I never looked back. Today, making my own wood band gun to my specs is irreplaceable.

    Aside from everything being user preference and one speargun just as capable of landing fish as another, We should get together some time and put the controversy to the test. Measure loading time for similar shaft length guns and do some tests; accuracy vs distance vs penetration through a sand filled plastic jug, like the good ol' Europeans :)

    Would love to do that but my time is limited. And if i have free time, i want to spend it spearfishing.


    Check out this video of the new denton 110 by Abellan. It fires a 7.5mm shaft with 2 18mm bands stretched to 350% with very little recoil and muzzle lift.


    http://www.vimeo.com/1946131

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