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WOW!
I don't think I'm even close to be a good spearo, but I think I have a little experience.
When you freedive, you don't have to fight with currents, you don't have to stalk fish, you don't have to get up and down a boat, you don't have to worry about a boat riding over you, etc, etc, etc.
A proper freediving technique of course will help, but it's not everything. I know GREAT spearfishermen with just 1:30 minutes bottom time and I also know "not so good" spearfisherme with almost 4 minutes apneas.
An analogy would be: Could Usain Bolt be a good footbal player? Maybe, but maybe not.
yes, we do fight current sometimes the rope is almost at a 45 degree angle- not fun! and we do get up and down a boat , have to deal with darkness, get a tag - just depends on where we are diving,
the point is that good skills are an asset. No , you do not have to dive to 100ft to spearfish unless you are in the over-fished Mediterranean ( Davide Carrerra, professional diver does) . I do know everyone who takes a freediving course, does research and practices becomes a better overall diver.
You've probably seen this video of WR Dave Mullins- has records in freediving and spearfishing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tPyguexXRktook him 2.5 hours to get this fish in. the initial shot ( not shown) was down deep.
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yes, William is in Europe now then will go to Okinawa for the team world championships (team NZ) . He will be back on Long Island in the fall. I'll be there in Oct. You should come for a course--he, personally, dives with you , the class group is small and you will make a lot of progress.
I just equalize normally until I get to about 35m. Then I have reached my residual lung volume( not enough air in your lungs to eq) and I have to bring air up for the mouthfill. Some divers reverse pack deeper for mouthfill but that takes a lot of practice. Eric Fattah describes this much better on his website ( liquivision.com). I still have problems with eq. at depth and am working on it. If you tense up ( as I do) it just doesn't happen. Each time seems to get better, though and I go a little deeper. I haven't been diving for very long so it is all new to me! -
yes, he is my coach -- a great guy . taught me how to dive. here we are at Vb 10 -- a personal best for me constant weight 58m( only my third dive ever with a fin ). I only train no-fins. You can see I am wearing "two" D4s . the pink one is mine the other is the official gauge. I set my alarms at 35m for mouthfill and 55m to look for the plate and grab the tag. This is after the dive - a white card from the judges!
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yes, actually I was a butterflier not a breaststroker-- the record holder a long time ago.
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the viz wasn't even good-- it was stormy outside the lagoon and there was a big upswell. I am in these videos
http://www.underwatervideography.com/events/vertical-blue-2010/?bcpid=77254008001&bclid=78116737001&bctid=80123899001 -
this isn't as cool as Guiilaume's Base Jump but it is the same time and location and he is in this along with Dave Mullins,Will Trubridge, Herbert Nitsch and me, Carla.BTW Alfredo Romo, the Mexican National Champion owns spearfish shop/biz in PV-- good guy to know if you want to dive El Banco por Atun Grande!
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if you wondered what it is like to dive into the deepest blue hole in the world- here it is. Yes, it is dark down there.
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Welcome O2 deprived :thumbsup2:
These guy have treated me like a brother, It nice to have a extended family that love's Mother Ocean as much as I do.Do you know if Water Works allows fins in the pool ?
I ended up going to Laguna yesterday for a long gun-less up hill swim to try out some new carbon fins.
Cheers, DonI'd like to start a little training group in the Newport/Costa Mesa area. Let me know if you want to meet up some time and do some fin work. The only problem with the pool is there is nothing on the bottom to look at except old band aids and gum :@ I did find a diamond earring once, though.
:diver1: Carla
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Don, I don't know about Water Works but 24 hour fitness allows fins-- you just get some weird looks and questions from the other members. I was training there on Fri with one of the spearos with his camo long fins and me with my mono, neckweights, etc. You just have to watch out for the dimwits who jump in on top of you when you are underwater.
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I posted about this a while ago and want to share some of my training I've started doing again. I did this last year and my diving really improved. The fact is after I started a new job late last year and with the kids growing up, I kind of stopped training and diving for a while. You must have a buddy though!
I think it's helpful, especially when diving frequency is low. I've never found anything more helpful for diving (other than the diving itself) than dynamic pool training. Tables never did anything for me, however, pool training improved my diving 50%. Examples last year when I was training and diving often, dive times went from 1:10-1:15 avg to 1:45, with many dives between 2-2:30, comfortably diving 80'+
Here is the workout routine, based on some recommended exercises by Pelizzari, and info from Deeperblue members (Mullins)
Start up by relaxing in the water for 3-5 minutes.
try a long swim (not a max), for me now this is between 75-100m
recover 2 mins, do a 75m x2
Recover 2-3 mins, do a 25m, hold (x secs), 25m back x3 or 4 times
this one will really help your reflex kick in strongly. you can hold as long as you can, start with 15-20 secs, work from there. It takes about 30 secs to slowly swim 25m, so your total swim times will be from 1:20 or so up. My PB in this is now 3:10, hoping to hit 4 mins
After you these holds, try a max swim. My PB is approx 110m, I really freak out after the 100m touch, I think it's mental. It takes about 1:50 to do 100m. My partner and I have a goal of 150m by the end of the year
then try some 50m or 75m swims with shorter recovery, say 1-1:30 mins x6-8 times
then do some 25 or 50m sprints with 1 min recovery x6 -8 times
that's it!
be safe
Next time you train ( make sure you have a buddy) start with a NO Warm-up maximum effort. Just breathe- up and go. The dive reflex kicks in faster and stronger. Dave does no warm-up in all his pool competitions and so do most of the other good divers. The warm- up just reduces the length of your swim. Let me know how you do. We do no warm-ups in depth, as well.
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That 288 is unreal........I've got dive gear for sale...;)
Cheers, DonThat record is from last year . His newest record is 95 meters (311 ft) from Vertical Blue Suunto Dive-Off in April. I train with him and he announced 100m and will do it when he decides to move the record.
In regards to packing; he does 45 packs . His lung capacity is 7 liters. He wears no weight.
Actually you can spearfish with dolphin kick if you are comfortable with it. I even use a mono sometimes because it requires so much less energy.
It is possible to do a frog kick and swim down with one arm- William makes you kick down ( no arms- no weight) in his class. I had to do the one arm swim in my last comp. when I neglected to get the tag secured and I had to carry it up- lol. My avatar photo is a cnf( constant no-fins) dive at Vertical Blue. I am just trying to do 50m! -
Freediving per se and spearfishing are two different sports. While freediving you just want to dive you personal best once.
not exactly- we do personal bests over and over- until that depth becomes easy. Basic freediving technique is immensely helpful to better spearfishing. If you can dive 200-300ft, a 40 ft spearing drop seems so easy. Many of the top competiitve freedivers are amazing hunters. It is very easy for them to hold their breath for 6 or 7 minutes while hiding behind a rock on the bottom and they are in great condition and have good kick technique.
Umberto Pellizari is the founder of Apnea Academy- the premier freediving school. He wrote the Manual of Freediving in 2001 and it was translated into english in 2004 by William Trubridge. It is the best basic text for beginner divers and those wishing to improve. Since it was published, freediving has evolved quickly. We use different equipment such as the monofin and fluid goggles and new techniques like the no warm-up maximum dive.
If you think that you are the best spearo in the world and don't need to improve then don't bother to read the book or take a course or ask questions from other experienced divers but if you think you have room for improvement -good information is of value. Personally, I try to learn as much as I can and try to put it into practice in my diving. -
diving, training, hunting with my mentor and coach. Check out the thieves at about 4:00 into the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59St5H5OeLA&playnext_from=TL&videos=2p1o_oRiUE8
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Hey, welcome! Diving in competitions, are you a local club member? Where in so cal are you located?
I live in Newport. I just joined OC Spearos. I compete in regular freediving not spearfishing - yet.
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Hello,
I am a friend of DonPaul and he suggested I join this forum. I am a competitive freediver and spearo. I live in So. Cal . I haven't been diving for too long but I am making progress thru trial and error. I have taken some freediving courses and have had the opportunity thru competitions to dive with the best in the world. I would be happy to offer suggestions to anyone who might have an issue in their diving -- I have and am still working on a lot of things myself! I do pool training and am always looking for training buddies.
