Don its my fondest wish to one day see you shooting in the blue in your cali water with double trouble.
I'll get the GoPro on it after I stock the freezer with a few gamefish. I'm not a hog with the two shafts, but the second shot/kill shot save any fish from being wasted on tear offs or deep structure line wraps. I have lost fish but very rarely.
Cheers, Don
I still don't know how to judge distance of the shot to be completely honest. When I went from a pole spear to a gun, I thought the gun was going to be some sort of magical weapon and slay fish from far away and I was wondering why I was missing so much. Now when I shoot my gun, i take it for what it is, a fish harvesting tool, not an underwater sniper rifle. I usually try not to shoot double the length of my gun, from my perception of it underwater and just wait and wait til the fish come in. It's all kind of instinctual and primal for me now, but I'm sure experience helps a lot too with judging distance.
When I first started spearfishing...my diving ability was very limited...not more than 5 meters (16') while my buddies were diving 4-5 times this depth..catching all the good fish.
You could say; out of desperation...I was pushing the limit of my RA 100cm back then and firing at fish 12-15 feet....by time I got good at it (I also had the chance to target practice for many hours in a pool).
This was my starting point when I starting building guns...it had to be accurate at long shots (relative to its length) and I started out with 100cm (100 cm, 40" is the length of the track)
With bigger guns, like the Tuna Tec 125...20 feet is comfortable in my case......my diving ability now improved but I still go for long shots....I think its a habit by now and gives better opportunity to catch fish...at least in our waters.
This was taken recently...shot with a 115 Laser Tec (45" track length) from approx 14-15 feet...right in the head...it didn't stone it but had a good grip till I got it out of the water.
Beautiful gun Ihab.:thumbsup2: , but you need to find a bigger boat.;)
All the best, Don
Bigger boat..maybe...but my dive buddies still dive deeper 
But....I always get the bigger fish 
Ihab
i think the trick is to learn how to get closer but as some old spearfishermen will tell you there are some smart experience fish that always stay a certain distance away which warrants a longer shot with a more powerful gun
I could not in a million years explain how I aim in water,
I have to agree with this. Same with distance because the fish that I've shot that were over 40 lbs looked to be about 25 when I shot. So much for MY distance judgement.
And how I aim...hah. I miss the most shots on a fish just laying there on the bottom. I point....aim....try to get the perfect stone shot....and MISS !! haha
I was told by our favorite gun making dentist from Hawaii, "don't aim...just point and shoot", which is how I shot bob white quail with a 20 gauge. It works better for me which is why I hardly miss a moving cero. It's the stationary 10 lb grouper that give me trouble. 
I have to agree with this. Same with distance because the fish that I've shot that were over 40 lbs looked to be about 25 when I shot. So much for MY distance judgement.
And how I aim...hah. I miss the most shots on a fish just laying there on the bottom. I point....aim....try to get the perfect stone shot....and MISS !! haha
I was told by our favorite gun making dentist from Hawaii, "don't aim...just point and shoot", which is how I shot bob white quail with a 20 gauge. It works better for me which is why I hardly miss a moving cero. It's the stationary 10 lb grouper that give me trouble.
Instinctive Shooting .:thumbsup2:
I try and shoot as close as possible. within 10 feet. Most of the long shots ive taken have been dicey and resulted in a fish tearing off or wounding it then having to chase it down. Hogs usually get shot from 1 - 5 feet away. triggers... i stab em before i try shooting them. I try n wait for the best possible shot that will hold too... I hate chasing fish down and trying to shoot on the fly.
As they say, it's not the arrow, it's the indian. Most of my shots are around five feet but I might go out to about eight, especially if shooting downward with a fish on the bottom or quartering away. Since I rarely use a float, the shot must be good so that there isn't much fight while getting to the surface. Additionally, if fishing commercially, head shots are essential so that the fillets are left intact.
One thing to consider is how far the shaft is going through the fish. Ideally, I think, you want the fish to end up on at the flopper and not on the shooting line. That can get messy and there's greater risk of the fish tearing off. In the last year I've had two spears snapped at the notch from groupers dragging them through the rocks. In each case, the fish was very near the notch when it broke.
pacha, you should look into sharkfin or mini sharkfin shafts... Ive broken a few notched shafts myself. the only ones I trust that are notched are the Rob allen/spearmaster shafts. Every gun Ive used/owned besides my RA that had a notched shaft looked like they were ready to explode... sporasub instinct, omer cayman 2000..
Andrew, I'm using Rob Allen notched shafts on my closed-muzzle Rob Allen 140cm gun. You can used a finned shaft with a closed muzzle gun? I hadn't looked into using them, just assuming they were for open muzzle guns.
Andrew, I'm using Rob Allen notched shafts on my closed-muzzle Rob Allen 140cm gun. You can used a finned shaft with a closed muzzle gun? I hadn't looked into using them, just assuming they were for open muzzle guns.
pinned and mini sharkfin shafts
Minishark fins on my railgun with closed muzzle work with no issues, been shooting 2 guns like that the past 3 years normal sharkfin however is a different story. Never tried a pinned shaft so I can comment on those.
That's good to know. I'm going to pick some up with the next order. Thanks!
You can also change the muzzle to an open one. It takes few shots to adapt to it.
I don't really have an issue with notched shafts, but with an open muzzle, the shaft is pressed to the barrell/muzzle with the mono avoiding tickling noises.
Yeah, I have a couple of open muzzle guns, a Wong Hybrid, a Rabitech 120 and an Aimrite 100. I like them all but I think I'll keep the Rob Allen 140 as a closed-muzzle gun. I do think it's worthwhile to give the mini-sharkfin tabs a try. Do you notice any difference in the wear on your wishbones? We're loading and shooting a lot, oftentimes more than 25 times per day.
What I do with RA's is when I load the wishbones, I leave them they way they lay in the notches. I haven't noticed any remarcable difference in accurancy when the wishbones aren't perctly centered. By doing this, I need to cut/change the bands before the wishbones are worn.
Moving them when loaded is what wears them more.
10 ft. max. And that's with a 130cm gun.
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