herranen speargun coating epoxy

  • this is the resin i use for coating guns that i have been selling to other builders for awhile now its $50 + shipping ($11 in the Continental us) for a kit that has a total volume of just under 1 quart this should be enuff to do two good size guns if you limit waste. (i also have some larger containers if you are doing a few guns , a couple colors of pigment ,and graduated mixing cups )
    this price reflects resin , containers , box's , and the paypal charge.
    if phil send me a email at philherranen@gmail.com i can send u a paypal request
    please include your address and amount you want in your order



    I'm not doing this to make money. I'm giving home builders access to pro only resin that's not available otherwise. , I added about $7 to cover my time and material & gas packaging, labeling, dropping off at Fedex, etc.



    ok heres some of the steps/tips i do to coat /lam a gun i willl add more as i have time (sorry' but im not going to do a start to finish with pics of how i do it ,i have to keep some secrets )


    epoxy info:
    2/1 ratio
    7 hr hard time @ 78 , 7 days full cure
    working time 20 min at 78


    safety:
    always wear gloves and wear a respirator or work outside when working with epoxy resin, and when sanding resin that is not fully cured.


    general :
    never very ratio for epoxy
    do not thin epoxy
    always fully mix epoxy before adding any fillers or pigments.


    mixing:
    this resin has a mixing tint to take full advantage i use clear mixing cups .when you first start mixing it will look milky after about 1 min. of mixing ( mix slowly and make sure to scrape the sides and bottom to limit bubbles and to get a complete mix.
    only add pigments/ fillers after mixing


    gun prep:
    1 sand all surfaces to 80 grit with the grain to promote a strong mechanical bond.
    2 quick ounce over with a green scotch brite pad
    3 blow dust off the gun
    4 from this point on do not touch gun with bare hands ( oils from your hands will give the finish "fish eyes"


    application:
    1 hang the gun and bring the room and gun up to temp (around 78) (do not apply resin as the temp is rising or you will get bubbles)
    using a disposable brush or high quality sponge brush apply a thin coat of resin. check on the gun and stop drips every 20 min until hard
    2 add 2 or 3 more thin coats : call it good if happy with finish or
    3 sand to 220 to remove any lumps
    4 do 2 more thin coats or until happy
    5 do NOT start assembling the gun for at least 4-6 days to give the resin time to cure (it will be very ez to scratch the first couple days
    phil

  • Hi Phil
    How do we get our hands on this in Europe?


    /Henrik


    it has to ship fed ex so shipping out of the country is expensive ,but if a couple of you guys are close together and can do a group order and split the shipping its more affordable, its almost the same to ship 4-5 kits as to ship one.
    phil

  • Phil,
    You use this epoxy for everything including the laminations, correct? I was planning on ordering your stuff very soon for my upcoming builds.


    Jim

  • Just a quick question - when sanding between coats, do you usually wait the 6 days till the epoxy is fully cured or just 1-2 days.


    Thanks

  • Phil,
    You use this epoxy for everything including the laminations, correct? I was planning on ordering your stuff very soon for my upcoming builds.


    Jim


    yes if fillers are added


    Phil do you sand between the first 3 coats? Also if I wanted a more natural wood grain look what would you suggest?



    i only sand if the first couple are uneven , what do you meen by natural look ? if you want it satin just scotch brite it after the last coat




    Just a quick question - when sanding between coats, do you usually wait the 6 days till the epoxy is fully cured or just 1-2 days.


    Thanks



    just 1 or 2 days the longer you wait the harder the resin gets . after full cure it is much harder to sand

  • I guess satin or matte are the proper terms. I was referring to a finish that was not a high gloss and had a look similar to that of an oiled gun. Also how flexible is the resin if applied to a fabric? Would it be brittle or would it flex like a fin?

  • Was admiring the roller at the Neptune meeting last night, that gun is fine.:toast::toast:


    Get better soon Phil, my broken hand is just now pain free after one and a half years.....god what a waste of good Polish Vodka.:D


    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • I guess satin or matte are the proper terms. I was referring to a finish that was not a high gloss and had a look similar to that of an oiled gun. Also how flexible is the resin if applied to a fabric? Would it be brittle or would it flex like a fin?


    it would flex , when layed up in glass it flexes very well before it fails. for a matte finish just scotch brite
    phil

  • Was admiring the roller at the Neptune meeting last night, that gun is fine.:toast::toast:


    Get better soon Phil, my broken hand is just now pain free after one and a half years.....god what a waste of good Polish Vodka.:D


    Cheers, Don


    i take it as a huge compliment that mori wanted to borrow that gun . josh had dinner with mori monday and said i wasn't getting it back.
    i am actually amazed how little my hand hurts it was a full separation break ,and after 3 days it only hurts if i bump the brace
    phil

  • Phil-


    Can the west systems graphite pigment be added and if so how dark can it turn out? I want to get a pitch black finish.

    Long Beach Neptune


    USCG 50GT

  • There are other pigments for black.......look at your hands...you've been out diving again.:D but you'll cut through the current with ease with the slippery barrel.;)


    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • Phil-


    Can the west systems graphite pigment be added and if so how dark can it turn out? I want to get a pitch black finish.


    if you want black use black pigment for 2-3 coats then a couple clear coats on that it will be jet black and have depth .
    phil

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