Bluewater Floatline & Bungee Setup questions

  • I'm planning a trip to Baja and want to get my bluewater floatline and bungee setup. This is intended for Wahoo, pelagics and Pargo.


    I'm thinking of doing a 50ft floatline and 25ft bungee to a Riffe 2ATM Float (possibly 2 RA inflatables)


    What do you bluewater experienced folks think and where is the best place to get the stuff?


    Jim

  • Josh @ Neptonic Systems. From what I have seen over the years his quality is high and has strong materials.


    I use a 50' Norprene buggie and a 50' specta cored vinyl float line.


    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

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  • A flungee also works, a 100 `75 `floatline coupled to a short ( 10 feet bungie) is also a good option. One quality Inflatable is enough. The regular Riffe torpedo will land any fish that you would encounter around here. The 2 atmosphere is more than enough.

    I'm a Speardiver, not a freediver

  • A flungee also works, a 100 `75 `floatline coupled to a short ( 10 feet bungie) is also a good option. One quality Inflatable is enough. The regular Riffe torpedo will land any fish that you would encounter around here. The 2 atmosphere is more than enough.


    Except 12' Black Marlin.:( on a very deep drop off.


    Cheers Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • Thanks for the replies, Don & Monster. Basically, its a toss up. As long as we have about 100 feet of floatline and bungee it will be OK. Thank you for the offer as well, Monster. I'm looking to get quality gear that will last, so I'll be probably buying stuff. So far, it is Harry and I going down sometime this year.


    When is the best time to visit?

  • For Marlin? At the pacific coast, either January or February, the Sea of Cortèz is productive all year long.


    From January to Late April Yellow tail


    From May `til september Amberjack (sail fish)


    Pargo all year round

    I'm a Speardiver, not a freediver

  • i would not use a bungie for pargo or for anything else in baja, depending where and when you go you will probably see wahoo, maybe sailfish, small yft but nothing big that will require multi floats and float lines. i would go with a 75'' line (not bungie) and a riffe float, i like the 2 atm because it packs well and is good for everything. for reef fish like pargo and big grouper, i think it's not a good idea to shoot them with anything other than a flopper shaft on a short shooting line so you can prevent them from running into a deep hole. just my 2 cents.

    steve veros


    in loving memory of paolo

  • Metelin, a bungie is excelent for landing big pargo, just use it attached to the float very tout, that stuff gives enough pressure against a holed up fish. A slip tip would prevent the dog to use the shaft as a lever.

    I'm a Speardiver, not a freediver

  • Metelin, a bungie is excelent for landing big pargo, just use it attached to the float very tout, that stuff gives enough pressure against a holed up fish. A slip tip would prevent the dog to use the shaft as a lever.


    imo it's better to get it off the reef as fast as possible so it doesn't hole up but if it does you can use the lift of the float to put pressure on it and eventually it will come out. i lost all of my bluewater gear in pv last year when i shot a 60+ fish with a sliptip and bungie on a breakaway. the fish stretched the bungie enough and the sliptip allowed it to go deep into a hole. if i had a short it with a hard float line and a short (one wrap) shooting line i may have been able to horse it up in time. the other thing is, if i was usuing a flopper shaft i think the fish would not have been able to hole up too deep with a shaft sticking through it.
    again, my opinion.

    steve veros


    in loving memory of paolo

  • imo it's better to get it off the reef as fast as possible so it doesn't hole up but if it does you can use the lift of the float to put pressure on it and eventually it will come out. i lost all of my bluewater gear in pv last year when i shot a 60+ fish with a sliptip and bungie on a breakaway. the fish stretched the bungie enough and the sliptip allowed it to go deep into a hole. if i had a short it with a hard float line and a short (one wrap) shooting line i may have been able to horse it up in time. the other thing is, if i was usuing a flopper shaft i think the fish would not have been able to hole up too deep with a shaft sticking through it.
    again, my opinion.


    You need to stop diving that waste out flow pipe, was it a 125 foot with no float ? Or did it get dark to soon ?


    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • imo it's better to get it off the reef as fast as possible so it doesn't hole up but if it does you can use the lift of the float to put pressure on it and eventually it will come out. i lost all of my bluewater gear in pv last year when i shot a 60+ fish with a sliptip and bungie on a breakaway. the fish stretched the bungie enough and the sliptip allowed it to go deep into a hole. if i had a short it with a hard float line and a short (one wrap) shooting line i may have been able to horse it up in time. the other thing is, if i was usuing a flopper shaft i think the fish would not have been able to hole up too deep with a shaft sticking through it.
    again, my opinion.


    Steve,
    I agree with you when it comes to Pargo. There is a 100 lb Pargo holed up off Corbetania with one of my shafts and a Mori Slip Tip at 120 feet. If I was using a float line instead of a bungee He would have made the icebox instead of the deep rock ledge.
    There is no perfect set up for Baja. Over rig and you have too much pressure and under rig you stand the chance of kissing your rig good bye. I like a 100 foot float line to a 25 ft bungee for Wahoo, Marlin ect and everything Bluewater in baja except Tuna. For Bottom fish go with the shortest floatline and the most floats you can drag around.:toast::toast:

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  • This thread has been a great contributor to my understanding of all this. Harry and I have been going back and forth trying to get a good answer. I'll keep checking this thread out.


    Jim

  • here are a couple more things to consider. on the last few airline trips i've been on, i pack all of my dive stuff into a sports tube (sports tube II), including 2 guns, fins, suit, float, float line, etc... making sure it's under the weight limit (usually 55#) and check it through. then i carry on a duffel bag with cloths and whatever else i need that wont fit in the tube. i try to find lead for the weigh belt locally if possible but if i cant i'll bring it in the duffel, i also pack a soft cooler in the duffel so i can bring home some fish and i usually check it through on the way back. with all the extra charges the airlines are dinging us with these days it pays to pack as light as possible.

    steve veros


    in loving memory of paolo

  • I'm new to bluewater and buying a gun for something that I haven't done enough, doesn't sound so smart. I probably would end up buying something and selling it. I want to experience bluewater a bit till i decide how big of a cannon is necessary. :D I'm just going to bring my 120 Denton on my trip and use it for bluewater and reef. I'll use my reel on the reef and floatline for bluewater. I bet it is enough gun to kill all the stuff down there.

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