New gun partially enclosed track

Thanks for checking out my gun thread.

Jeff, I think Abellan had a gun made of some kind synthetic material. It looked very nice, had nice lines and the color was like dark wood. I think they discontinued it because they couldn't get the paint/finish to stay on.

I made some modifications to this gun, this one I already posted about in its own thread.

Over a year ago I had an idea about shaping the band slot of a wood gun in such a way that it would allow control of how the bands run when the gun is loaded. The idea was hatched the due to the perceived necessity to elevate the bands as close as possible to the level of the spear, so as to reduce muzzle kick. Back then I still thought it was an issue with a wood gun with two bands. The idea was that the band fills the conventional hole when not stretched but when stretched it is forced into the smaller hole thereby raising it.

Many builders opt for cutting channels/contours into the stock to control band alignment. I've never owned nor loaded such a gun, but I did make up my mind about two things. 1. These contours make the gun stock more bulky. 2. Sometimes for the bands to make use of the contours care must be taken when loading them so that they occupy their respective places, this takes more time and loading effort. I've always maintained the shape that best combines minimum necessary mass and hydrodynamic movement is a straight stick that is taller than it is wide. The addition of the stretched bands on such a gun makes the gun body round. Whereas on a Riffe Euro where the stock is wider than it is tall in the first place, the stretched bands compound the width making it IMO very inconvenient to hold.

Anyhow I forgot about all this because muzzle kick was no longer an issue. But since I started using a new gun, and I like to load both bands on one tab, a new issue came up. The bands were running/stacking over each other when loaded instead of running in a compact manner from the band slot to the tab. This is very important to me as it makes carrying the gun when loaded inconvenient, I carry it by the stock. If the bands stack one on top of the other it increases dramatically the profile of the gun body and it's hard to close your hand around it. Since this gun already has a bigger all around stock than what I normally prefer to use, the stacking bands increased the inconvenience to the point that I almost concluded I will not be using the gun. So in an effort to salvage it and make the gun more streamlined I remembered this old idea and came back to it.

This is what it looks like.

My original thought was to leave each band in its hole so I shaped one hole angling up and one angling down. I though it through carefully before cutting but I f**ked it up, I did it it the opposite way, due to the nature of which band gets loaded first, and the bands stacked even worse than before :dumb: I thought I messed up the gun for good. Then I decided to try one more thing, put both bands in the first hole.

It worked beautifully, just as planned except well I used it all day yesterday. The first band that is loaded occupies the small space. The second band runs right under it without any special loading effort. When both bands are loaded the gun is as tight and compact as can be, I'm very satisfied. And in the end there's room for a third band which I wanted anyways as an option, since the stock on this gun has enough mass to support it. It remains to be seen how this third band will run. But the main point is that for two band guns this type of slot is the shit IMHO! Getting two bands through that little hole required putting one band through the hole and loading it thereby creating space for the second band, and then lubing the second band with dish detergent. However there is no reason not to make the slot extend a little more towards the muzzle, it will not change the alignment effect.

The other modifications.

I made a mistake and put the handle further away from the trigger than where it was comfortable for me to reach it. The only way to bring the trigger closer was to change its shape. I made a cut in the trigger and bend it backwards a little bit at at time until it was in perfect position. Then I had it welded at a metal fabrication shop to close the gap. I then filed and sanded it back to clean shape.

I like to load both bands on one tab. I also like it when there's only one tab and then I can load by touch almost without looking. I made this shaft out of a two tabbed euro shaft by cutting off the back including the second tab and shaping a square notch. Obviously the shooting line would connect to the one tab which already had a hole for it. I found that because the shooting line loop and crimp were squeezed down right under the loaded bands, on firing the bands would push the crimp into the track and the crimp would damage the top part of the track gouging out wood and creating splinters. Rather than buy another shaft I opted for adding a dog house, I've used this system before and it works fine. All I had to do was bend some SS wire and drill two holes through the shaft. Then have each point on the bottom of the shaft welded at the metal fabrication shop. The welding on the trigger and the doghouse cost me $20 and took 10 minutes for the welder to do.

They're measurements for the fish we hunt here that have a minimum size.

That happens to me very rarely. If you don't let frustration control you on fishless days it shouldn't happen. What motivates me is that I hate the feeling I get when taking a life and then having to discard the animal. For this same reason I don't kill fish just for chum. There is a learning curve but a conscientious spearo can avoid shooting short fish. Still there's no denying it, I and many others have these measurements on the gun. It's supposed to be a sort of taboo subject publicly.

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This gun is for sale for $300, that's less than the sum of it's components.

$150 laminated wood guy stock
$60 Neptonics Reef mech
$75 Shaft
$14 Riffe loading butt
$24 Riffe line anchor
$12 Pursuit wishbone inserts
Total $335

The gun is newly refinished with penetrating epoxy, and has fresh bands. It's a little too heavy for me, I'll be building the same gun with a slimmer stock

I can also be contacted at info@pursuitspearfishing.com