Suspenders or not?

That certainly depends on the size of the balls you´re sporting

There's no advantage to the suspenders. If you want to take a dump the jacket must come off first.

Hahhahhaha, is this thread funny or is just me

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There's no advantage to the suspenders. If you want to take a dump the jacket must come off first.

There is humor but also a lot of truth in this statement.

I cut them off every 2 piece suit I have ever had. I can relax my chest and torso more and breathing up is less restricted.

Cheers, Don

I now get it, in spanish a "suspender" (suspensorio) is a device to avoid a thorn muscle in the groin. Used by baseball players, ballet dancers and such individuals who need some "restriction" in the groin area to avoid injury. My bad

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Why do they make them with suspenders also? I've only seen this with spearfishing suits.

I think there's a general misconception that without suspenders the pants tend to slide down, and the wetsuit manufacturers cater to the divers that expect suspenders. Also the suspenders appear to add value to the wetsuit. I never had the waist high pants slide down with Speardiver wetsuits, anyways the jacket has a beaver tail supporting the pants. It's simply more comfortable without the suspenders.

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It's simply more comfortable without the suspenders.

And that takin' a dump thing....:laughing:....for real. I've done it many times....excitement so my wife says....and it's a pain in the ass to have to take the whole top off or worse, a one piece.

Literally huh

It's great to be able to do it in the water. Having to take off the jacket and hold it, while holding the gun in the other hand and trying to take a dump is next to impossible. Without suspenders you just unbuckle the beaver tail, roll up the jacket, roll down the pants to about your knees, and assume a fetal position, at the same time making short rapid finning movements with your hands, to stay afloat and get away from your own refuse.

Here is a series of photos with Rolo demonstrating the technique. On the boat Sergio and I were alerted to the presence of the flotsam by Rolo and were anxiously watching it and Davie's (who was swimming behind Rolo) trajectory. Here you see Davie swimming into the turdfish and taking evasive action.

Rolo proud of his accomplishment.

Davie reaching the boat relieved to have escaped certain doom.

it depends on the water temp and also how well your height fits a stock size. personally i would never buy a high wast suit ,i need every bit of warmth i can get . but you warm water guys can get away with alot more than us cold water divers can ,for you a suit is just comfort ,for us it is life or death .it was 40f when i went out last week
phil

When more warmth is needed, it's time to go to a thicker suit all around, not double up on material in a small area of the torso, just where it restricts breathing. What sense does it make to have 7mm around the arms, arm pits, legs and head, and 14mm between your hips and chest. Maybe this worked with double lined scuba suits, but with open cell it doesn't make sense to me.

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When more warmth is needed, it's time to go to a thicker suit all around, not double up on material in a small area of the torso, just where it restricts breathing. What sense does it make to have 7mm around the arms, arm pits, legs and head, and 14mm between your hips and chest. Maybe this worked with double lined scuba suits, but with open cell it doesn't make sense to me.

i have never noticed any restriction in breathing withe ether type of pants with a correctly fitting suit , the reason for 7mill on your arms and leg is they need to flex and bend ,and 14mm on your core because that is where all your vitals are and where the mass of your body is , also when you get cold your blood vesels in your arms and legs constrict to keep blood in your core to conserve warmth . the military makes heated vest to keep your core warm so you can wear thin sleaves and gloves so intricate work can still be done in sub 0 temps . almost all surf suits have a thicker chest than arms and legs .i have worn both and a high wast is colder and you get more water flushing than a farmer jon . the only advantage to a high wast pant is the ability to do a water dump which isnt really a option when you are diving in water cold enuff that you are wearing a 5mm or 7mm suit. to me it makes no sense to wear thick sleaves and a not a doubled up core
phil

Phil, now that you say that I'm not sure if you've used an open cell suit. There's no water circulation in the suit at all.

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Phil, now that you say that I'm not sure if you've used an open cell suit. There's no water circulation in the suit at all.

all i wear is a open cell freedive suit , when the water gets really cold you can feel every little trickle that comes in the suit , they are not even close to water tight . you just do notice it in warm water .what do you think happens to all that pee?
phil

I have to disagree. We have times in the year where the water is very cold (or at least feels that way, it's a matter of acclimation) and no water comes into my suits. Maybe you're having a hard time finding a suit that fits you properly, and some areas are loose and don't seal. I see in your avatar pic you're using a JBL suit? Not sure how much experience JBL has making open cell suits, seems to me like they started in the last couple of years. If going by the guns it's going to take them a while to get it right, if ever.