Terry Maas Freediver recovery vest

  • I was reading a review on it by Bill Mac and thought I'd start a thread about the FRV here.

    The review is good. I think the FRV is a great idea and kudos to Terry Maas for bringing it to the freediving community. Me personally I don't think I'll be using it, and it doesn't have to do with the cost. I think it's because I just don't want to deal with another piece of gear. Also as in any situation where you relegate responsibility to a machine, there are things that can go wrong. One situation I envision is being tangled at depth in some way, and needing to reach down to free yourself at the very end of your breathhold. If you had any kind of chance of success, and the vest deploys at this moment, you're toast.

  • im getting a frv very soon . there will always be a what if this happens scenario but overall i think you are safer wearing it .to me its just to get you to the surface if you do pass out , where i dive if you pass out and sink it will be hours before anyone will find you ,even if they are right next to you when it happens. i plan on diving like i dont have it on ,to me its just a insurance policy . i have had a couple chances to look at it at Terry's and also joe tobins one and they are a solid ,well thought out piece of equipment
    phil

  • Does the vest come with a lifetime warrenty? Who is going to fis it if the company goes out of business?


    Valid question for sure ladyr, I will forward your question to Terry if he is in town. I could modify my dangerous free diving methods by having a buddy follow be around and spot me on dives like the Freedive class disciples
    are taught, but I know I will probably die alone in the arms of Mother Ocean. My plan is for my body to be returned to the sea after cremation or found resting at peace at the end of my 100 foot float line.


    I have blacked out alone at dusk while deep diving for a holed fish in 65 FSW. unbuckling my wt belt and letting go of my gun saved me along with the luck of floating face up. Now that I'm older and less likely to recover from such a blackout or stress to my heart, I will be buying a vest as soon as funds permit. Losing 25 friends around the world along with attending many funerals seeing the pain on wives, kids and family has been a strong factor in my decision to purchase a vest. I would trust any product Terry Maas produces with my life without a second thought.


    There will always be the exception when a seat belt, back up chute or air bag causes a unforeseen fatal outcome, but I will put my trust in the statistics of life saving data.


    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

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  • I would consider buying the product if it was backed by a major industry manufacturer/distributer that has a track record. It has merit but the first generation buyers are taking a huge risk IMO.

  • I won't be buying one. I enjoy freediving, and I want to be comfortable. I dive deeper every year and yet I feel safer than ever. If I don't see a fish, I come back up. I do not come close to my limit. I try not to stay down too long if its not necessary. If a fish is holed up pretty bad(80ft >), I usually use a scooter to retrieve fish. If I don't use a scooter, I usually don't have the energy to dive the same way the rest of the day.

  • I won't be buying one. I enjoy freediving, and I want to be comfortable. I dive deeper every year and yet I feel safer than ever. If I don't see a fish, I come back up. I do not come close to my limit. I try not to stay down too long if its not necessary.



    Well said Greekdiver.

  • I won't be buying one. I enjoy freediving, and I want to be comfortable. I dive deeper every year and yet I feel safer than ever. If I don't see a fish, I come back up. I do not come close to my limit. I try not to stay down too long if its not necessary. If a fish is holed up pretty bad(80ft >), I usually use a scooter to retrieve fish. If I don't use a scooter, I usually don't have the energy to dive the same way the rest of the day.


    new divers are not the ones who die ,its the upper end of the spectrum . you can tell yourself whatever you want about how it wont happen to you , but the better you are the higher your odds are of dieing in this sport
    phil

  • new divers are not the ones who die ,its the upper end of the spectrum . you can tell yourself whatever you want about how it wont happen to you , but the better you are the higher your odds are of dieing in this sport
    phil


    Phil is spot on in my book. The thing I fear the most when freediving is my own complicity. It becomes easy as the the trips to the edge become completely normal.... Another killer is greed... '' I want to win this meet''.
    ''I know I can cut this fish out before it tears of''. Dam ! that's a monster groper back in that cave, but I've done this before''. Betting your dive mates for big fish on the boat or on the trip, is another killer.:nono:
    I admit to hanging longer on deep dives if a pro cinematographer is burning film. I personally have committed these sins and that is why I am a candidate for Terry's vest. Some guys have more control than I have and they may never need it, I don't.


    PARACHUTIST'S DEATH RULED ACCIDENTAL


    LOUISBURG (AP) - The death of an experienced parachutist who fell
    10,500 feet without a parachute while he was filming another jump was
    accidental, Franklin County investigators said Tuesday.
    "We have gathered enough information to declare it an
    accident," Sheriff Arthur Johnson said.
    Ivan Lester McGuire, 35, of Durham died Saturday after jumping from an
    airplane without a parachute, said Captain Ralph Brown of the
    Sheriff's Department. McGuire had made more than 800 jumps.


    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

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  • new divers are not the ones who die ,its the upper end of the spectrum . you can tell yourself whatever you want about how it wont happen to you , but the better you are the higher your odds are of dieing in this sport
    phil


    Actually you are a little wrong with that info at least in my area. A lot of new divers especially people in the age of 17-23 try to go too deep too fast. It has happened many times in our area. They do not understand that they can die and push themselves past their limit. In South Florida, we dive much deeper than Cali divers. The water is cleaner and you can see the bottom sometimes even deep. I think that is how people get in trouble.


    With that being said, I still think it is a great invention. I do not see myself ever using it even if the odds of death are increased.

  • Some guys have more control than I have and they may never need it, I don't.


    This is how I feel. Truly understanding the dangers and knowing your honest capable limits will bring you home every time.

  • Terry recently announced a version of the FRV will be used by our Navy Seals. :thumbsup2:
    Congratulations Tuna Man.


    All the best, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • I had a spooky dream last night about diving, so I'm cutting off any more funding on my boat until a have moneys for Terry Maas's Mark II FRV vest. Today I decided I have had enough close calls, and I owe it to my family.
    Terry has the FRV mark 2 at $1100.0 bucks for the first 50, I'm on the list for next month release date.
    I will be 61 in March and I don't know if my body could survive a game gun misfire into my chest underwater. ( loading a mates gun). I have also pushed myself beyond my limits fighting large dog tooth snapper and other fish in deep caves. Yes it is not a 100% solution for all, but I have gotten away with dive sins too long. I am not going to lie, I dive alone 90% of the time and not as safe as some.


    Sincerely, Don Paul


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjdi7GsEd0Y

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

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  • Im glad to see the price has come down. It looks like a great invention. If my mother ever saw it I would probably have 2.


    Personally I have mixed thoughts. For a lot of the diving I do I dont think its necessary or even particularly useful. That being said there are some times when I dive alone/ too far for my buddy to provide help and it would be reassuring. The biggest issue I have with it is I see myself viewing it as a crutch. Somewhere in the back of my mind knowing that if something happens it's there to save me and pushing myself too far because of it.


    Eventually I might get one but until then I hope Terry keeps up the good work. This product will save lives and is the type of innovation this sport needs.

  • I thought a lot about that crutch idea. I don't think it would happen to me. Or you, having spent a few hours in the water with you off shore and a boat. Here is why. When you dive you are aware of your body. That is the key. What you use as your limit and how you know that limit is totally subjective, but you have that proprioception. The internal alarm will always go off for me before ill have the vest programmed.


    I want it for the reason Tono articulated. Murphy. He lurks everywhere and underwater holding my breath I tend to want to mitigate risk.


    I dive safer knowing I have a spotter. By rights I should push harder but I don't. I am instead more focused on being a good teammate and using the presence of the extra diver to work fish. I see the vest the same way. It will perhaps relax me but not encourage me to be reckless.


    In a funny way it is like saying seatbelts make people drive faster.

    i like to spear fish

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