broken shaft

  • I came home from Hawaii on Monday night and the first thing Mo and Tino say is, "hi Dad, we broke a shaft".


    They then stuck the shaft in my face to take a look at. Sure enough, about 6-8 inches (est, I haven't measured it yet) from the tip, it was broken clean off and the remainder was straight.
    They said Tino shot a a hogfish and it hit a rock. I'll try and post a pic later.
    I've never had that happen.

  • Hahaha now you can make a shark spike, a stringer, and other acc that you might not need hahaha


    Better for gear to fail when it doesn't cost you fish or health

    i like to spear fish

  • I've seen a couple spears broken like that. Like Dan said usually it's at the flopper pin or at the threads but under the right circumstances (blasting into rock) it can happen.

  • I have seen spring steel shafts brake a foot back from the tip on point blank rock impacts.


    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • If anyone wants a more technical explanation of why this happens PM me. Ill reply tomorrow after my last Final Exam.


    I don't type as fast as I can speak, so here's mine.....


    Hard shaft and hard.... Rock.:D;)
    Leading to catastrophic failure of the Hanks shaft.:@:@

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • When a spear is fired the bands convert their potential energy into kinetic energy which causes the shaft to move. Not complicated. When the shaft strikes a rock or some other rigid object, this energy cant be transferred to the rock and so it is converted into heat and sound in the form of a vibration. You have all heard the ping when the shaft hits and if you have every repeatedly bent a wire you know it will warm up. However, these deformations and vibrations cannot occur instantaneously. A high-velocity collision (an impact) does not provide sufficient time for these deformations and vibrations to occur. As a result the material behaves as if it were more brittle than it is. Thats why steel which is usually a ductile material snaps as if it was brittle.


    You may wonder why this doesn't happen more often. Kinetic energy is proportional to velocity squared v^2. If the velocity is cut in half the kinetic energy is cut by a factor of 4. Drag, the force that slows the spear down, is also proportional to the v^2. The force of drag is highest when velocity is highest. As a result, the kinetic energy of the spear drops fairly quickly after the shaft leaves the gun. Once the kinetic energy has dropped below a certain point it can be more easily converted into the deformation of the material. In the case of steel which is malleable the tip gets smashed or dulled.


    Other factors such as fatigue - microscopic cracks from repeated impact, impurities and irregularities in the steel, type of rock, angle of impact, and others also effect the this scenario.

  • Which brand was the shaft? I suspect I guess...


    Pursuit


    Only time I ever had any problem with one of that brand. And that was no virgin shaft. I think it'd been bounced off more than one rock as Mo and Tino were honing their aim on unsuspecting hogfish. :D

  • Pursuit


    Only time I ever had any problem with one of that brand. And that was no virgin shaft. I think it'd been bounced off more than one rock as Mo and Tino were honing their aim on unsuspecting hogfish. :D


    Ups! I had another guess...

    Marco Melis

    A bad day fishing is ALWAYS better than a good day at work.

  • Other factors such as fatigue - microscopic cracks from repeated impact, impurities and irregularities in the steel, type of rock, angle of impact, and others also effect the this scenario.


    Nice post. Thanks.
    The shaft had probably been bent a couple times and straightened. I lay them on a flat slab of concrete outside and pound them straight as a fine tuning method. If it doesn't work, I get a bigger hammer. :D The boys have had this shaft stuck in holes, banged on rocks....it's their training shaft and it's been on a Riffe C3


    Dan I still have 4 more of the ones you sent. It's about time to place another order. I'm maintaining about 6 guns now.


    Pretty funny to see someone get a new gun. They're all stoked and I'm thinking, "it begins". My friend just bought a nice gun and I'm telling him to order shooting line, crimps, crimp tool, band rubber, wishbone line, dyneema, pigtail. And they were scuba divers so now they need low volume masks, long fins, computer,....haha. He looks at me like..."seriously"? Expect a big order soon. :thumbsup2:

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