Best reel line to spear knot

  • What's the best knot to tie the reel line directly to a shaft? Should be a non constricting loop and ideally easy enough to undo and tie again in the water.


    Any problems with a simple stopper overhand knot right at the hole (for euro shafts)?

  • I would think a stopper would be impossible to untie after any load. I have never tied the reel line to a shaft, so no help from me da mono man.;)


    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • Any disadvantages tying the line to the shaft other than lacking a swivel connection to reduce knots?


    A stopper knot doesn't take a lot of line, I'd just cut it off if needed. The difficult part would be inserting the line in the hole once the end is frayed, but I figured out a neat trick. Pull the jacket layer back exposing an inch of the line inner core and cut it off. Pull the jacket back over the end of the line. Now it's quite thin and will easily thread through the hole.

  • If the shaft tail is debured and polished, I don't see any issues other than the hydrodynamic drag on the knot side of the shaft, and possibly steering it on long shots. I usually have the loop tuck the swedge behind the shaft tail on flight. I just flashed back to my early days in Baha and tying a bowline to my 3/8 grouper shafts using 300# blue tuna cord. I never untied with wet gloves, just cut it off when needed.


    Cheers, Don

    "Great mother ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home'' Don Berry from Blue Water Hunters.


    Spearfishing Store the freediving and spearfishing equipment specialists.

  • I use a lot of time on my first speargun simple knot to stop the shaft without any problem with medium fish, then with time use a fixed loop at the end of the shaft and then knotted the line reel there.:)

    Sadot Hernàndez.

  • I use a bowline for a LOt of stuff, because it can be untied after extreme pressure. I use to tow cars because of that.


    I use it to tie reel line to pigtails. Never tied reel line to a shaft yet. But I don't know how easy it'd be to untie using that small of a line.

  • Some guys will splice this. But for general use seems way overkill. I used to use a simple overhand knot. then I could pull a little slack through so the knot hung either behind the fins or behind the shaft. No worries to cut it off and rethread.

  • The problems I would see with the stopper are like you mentioned it may be impossible to undo (you could just cut it), it might have a hard time fitting into a mech and it has the potential to slip/fail. I like the splice idea but like Jon mentioned is a lot of work for most applications. The bowline will work. There are other more complex but more symmetric knots that might be better for drag purposes.

  • Figure 8 knot is stronger than a bowline. I like the bowline, been using it for a very long time in many applications. A figure 8 you can visual see it is done correctly as a plus.


    If you do tie the bowline wrong it will not work so well. Not sure how they do that, but it's part of the rock climbing folklore.


    Those of you with Kids and want them to them to get off computer games, get some rope and a knot typing book. There should be some around with climbing reference or a boy scout manual.

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  • I also use the bowline to tie reel line to my swivel and ive used it to tie it to my shaft a few times in emergencies too. Its fairly easy to loosen if you just bend the line a lil and push on the loop where the rabbit goes around the tree

  • Yep, that's it. "…the rabbit comes out of his hole, goes around the tree, and back into his hole". That's how I always remembered it.


    Yep - my go to knot.

  • I agree with the bowline. I have used it on everything from 300# tuna line to spectra. Never had it fail. Just like the one in the diagram Dan.
    I also use a Bowline for many different mountaineering applications. One down side is that when it is cycled loaded unloaded it can get loose. Some mountaineers use a "double bowline " which is a bowline but instead of the loop to start you use a clove hitch. The Hitch tightens down preventing the knot from loosening. The double bowline may be to bulky for shooting line connection.:thumbsup2:

  • DAN It is a waste of time, the stress produced in the thread within the hole in the bottom of the arrow must be cut
    at least 3 meters with rocks the wear.Better a swivel snap hook more nylon between the arrow and thread spool.


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    Es una perdida de tiempo, por el desgaste que sufre en el agujero en el pie de la flecha, hay que estar cortando por lo menos 3 metros por el desgaste con las rocas.
    Es mejor un mosqueton quitavueltas mas nilon entre la flecha y el hilo del carrete.:)

  • I often tie to my shaft with spectra when I dont have the time to splice, or lines i change out often. I know a lot of knots, and the one i use over and over is the bowline. it is fast, its a solid knot, but be aware you do lose up to 60% of the lines breaking strength... another reason I shoot with 1000lb spectra ;)

    A bad day at sea is better than a good day in the boatyard
    George Steele

  • Dan, entiendo quieres unir cuerda, dinema directo a la flecha y deshacer si es necesario.
    La ventaja de un buen nudo para unir partes es que mientras más tensión se le ejerza más apriete, pero eso no lo quieres, por el contrario quieres que se deshaga fácilmente.


    Yo, podría atar un dinema a la flecha directamente con un nudo que no se pueda deshacer y sí requiero por alguna razón modificarlo en el agua corto con mi cuchillo Speardiver y vuelvo atar., pero igual tendría que salir del agua y hacerlo.


    Ahora, si es exclusivamente para pesca con bombona y requieres modificar algo a -30mts., considera que tampoco es fácil hacer y deshacer nudos en con guantes, frio….. Dapiran usaba un dispositivo metálico en el agujero de la flecha al que se le podía unir con cuerda o clips, quiero decir que se podría usar partes pre-armadas de cuerda y clips, cuando el buzo pescador tenga un problema lo resuelva usando el segmento pre-armado de cuerda-clips-etc...


    http://www.dapiran.it/web1.5/i…s/asta-con-pernetti.2.jpg


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNpEFdOS8m4

    Un Hombre tiene que creer en algo.......
    Creo que me iré de pesca!!!

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